Some of them seem to have been transfered under Bai Chongxi commande.
However, I don't have an exact date.

I am sure you know this much better than I do, but I was having a senior moment last night and had trouble convincing myself that Fu An's nickname really was what I remembered. So I cracked open my copy of the Water Margin, and after being gobsmacked by the fact that I had remembered correctly, I noticed that my edition starts with a list of 108 characters (complete with nicknames -- and they aren't exactly what I would characterize as honorifics)
who left the Liangshan marshes, and another 29 who didn't. That's a lot of personal names, and if you leave the somewhat rude nicknames in Chinese you'll have a lot more.

This probably won't help you because I'm sure you're looking for names of actual officers, but in a pinch you could always pretend that some of them adopted noms de guerre of literary figures. And no in the west since Pearl Buck will know the difference).

Originally posted by Philippe_at_bay:

I am sure you know this much better than I do, but I was having a senior moment last night and had trouble convincing myself that Fu An's nickname really was what I remembered. So I cracked open my copy of the Water Margin, and after being gobsmacked by the fact that I had remembered correctly, I noticed that my edition starts with a list of 108 characters (complete with nicknames -- and they aren't exactly what I would characterize as honorifics)
who left the Liangshan marshes, and another 29 who didn't. That's a lot of personal names, and if you leave the somewhat rude nicknames in Chinese you'll have a lot more.

This probably won't help you because I'm sure you're looking for names of actual officers, but in a pinch you could always pretend that some of them adopted noms de guerre of literary figures. And no in the west since Pearl Buck will know the difference).

thank you for the answer ^^

您好。根据姜克夫《民国军事史》第二卷的记录，1929年1月1日至26日在南京召开的编遣会议决定了当时的军队编制和首脑。其中，

·第47师，师长郑俊彦，原属于孙传芳等人的直军。[1]根据互联网信息，这支部队在1928年战败后退往天津，先投靠阎锡山，后投靠蒋介石。[2]郑在1929年的编制会议结束后不久退休。根据“抗日战争纪念网”的信息，上官云相在1930年3月5日-1930年10月担任47师师长。11月起，47师由王金钰控制。[3]

·第48师，师长徐源泉，原属于张宗昌等人的直鲁联军。[1]1928年初，兵败的张宗昌残部约10万人被徐源泉组织起来，驻扎在河北昌平（现在的北京市昌平区）。[4]这支部队在1928年10月裁军后，调往湖北和江西进行训练，后来参加了围剿红军的行动。[5]尽管曾经驻扎在平津一带，但这支部队看起来并没有在1929年初仍然停留在华北。

根据姜克夫《民国军事史》第二卷的记录，1929年1月编遣会议所没有记录的武装力量中，在华北和西北地区还有阎锡山的一部分士兵、冯玉祥收编的一部分直系败军。我没有看到他们是否驻扎在平津一带的记录。

这些信息非常复杂，我的英语写作会有些吃力，所以AI将会帮助翻译过程。如果作者对英文版本的含义有问题，欢迎提问。我想表达的信息以中文版本为准。

参考文献：
[1] 姜克夫. 民国军事史·第二卷[M]. 重庆. 重庆出版社, 2009: 6-13.
[2] http://www.360doc.com/content/23/0426/14/18841360_1078223774.shtml
[3]https://baike.baidu.com/reference/2929798/533aYdO6cr3_z3kATP2NyqmkNS6RY4uqv73UBrJzzqIPmGapB5nyTcY58s0l9PkpFwTG_4tqb8FYxLDyClZE7P8XeOgrGvF_wQ
[4] https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89/3448086
[5] https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89


Hello,

According to the records in Volume 2 of Military History of the Republic of China by Jiang Kefu, the Reorganization Conference held in Nanjing from January 1 to January 26, 1929, determined the military structure and leadership at that time. Among them:

The 47th Division, commanded by Zheng Junyan, originally belonged to the Zhili Army under Sun Chuanfang and others. [1] According to online sources, this unit retreated to Tianjin after its defeat in 1928, first aligning with Yan Xishan and later with Chiang Kai-shek. [2] Zheng retired shortly after the reorganization conference concluded in 1929. According to the "Anti-Japanese War Memorial Network," Shangguan Yunxiang served as the commander of the 47th Division from March 5 to October 1930. Starting in November, Wang Jinyu took control of the division. [3]

The 48th Division, commanded by Xu Yuanquan, originally belonged to the Zhili-Shandong Coalition Army under Zhang Zongchang. [1] In early 1928, Xu organized approximately 100,000 remnants of Zhang Zongchang's defeated forces and stationed them in Changping, Hebei (now Changping District, Beijing). [4] After being downsized in October 1928, this unit was sent to Hubei and Jiangxi for training and later participated in operations to suppress the Red Army. [5] Although they were once stationed in the Beiping-Tianjin area, it seems this unit was no longer in northern China by early 1929.

According to Volume 2 of Military History of the Republic of China by Jiang Kefu, among the armed forces not recorded in the January 1929 reorganization conference, there were still some troops in northern and northwestern China under Yan Xishan and remnants of the Zhili Army integrated into Feng Yuxiang's forces. I did not find any records indicating whether they were stationed in the Beiping-Tianjin area.

These details are complex, and my English writing may be a bit challenging, so I will rely on AI to assist with the translation. If the author has any questions regarding the meaning of the English version, please feel free to ask. The information in the Chinese version should be considered authoritative.

References:
[1] 姜克夫. 民国军事史·第二卷[M]. 重庆. 重庆出版社, 2009: 6-13.
[2] http://www.360doc.com/content/23/0426/14/18841360_1078223774.shtml
[3]https://baike.baidu.com/reference/2929798/533aYdO6cr3_z3kATP2NyqmkNS6RY4uqv73UBrJzzqIPmGapB5nyTcY58s0l9PkpFwTG_4tqb8FYxLDyClZE7P8XeOgrGvF_wQ
[4] https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89/3448086
[5] https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89

这里补充一个细节：作者似乎认为1929年初，有2支庞大的部队驻扎在河北北部，并且即将被贿赂。不过，根据我查到的信息，在刚刚的回答中提到的两支部队在1929年初已经完成了对蒋介石的投靠。

47师：原听命于安国军政府的郑俊彦在1928年6月被击败，并投靠阎锡山。此后，他被任命为国民革命军第三集团军第5军团军团长，直至在编遣会议中被任命为47师师长。47师就是由第三集团军第5军团裁撤改编而来。

48师：1928年，蒋介石对徐源泉又打又拉，派第一集团军参谋长何成浚，利用罗薜裳与徐源泉的同乡关系拉徐投蒋，委徐任国民革命军“讨逆军”第十军军长兼48师师长。

Additionally, the author seems to believe that by early 1929, two large units were stationed in northern Hebei and were on the verge of being bribed. However, based on the information I have found, the two units mentioned earlier had already pledged allegiance to Chiang Kai-shek by early 1929.

47th Division: Zheng Junyan, who had previously obeyed the Ankuo Army Government, was defeated in June 1928 and later sought refuge with Yan Xishan. He was subsequently appointed commander of the 5th Corps of the 3rd Army Group of the National Revolutionary Army until being assigned as commander of the 47th Division during the Reorganization Conference. The 47th Division was formed by downsizing and reorganizing the 5th Corps of the 3rd Army Group.

48th Division: In 1928, Chiang Kai-shek used both pressure and persuasion on Xu Yuanquan. He dispatched He Chengjun, Chief of Staff of the 1st Army Group, to leverage Luo Bishang's ties as a fellow townsman of Xu Yuanquan to persuade him to switch allegiance. Xu was eventually appointed commander of the 10th Army of the National Revolutionary Army’s “Anti-Rebellion Army” and concurrently served as commander of the 48th Division.

更新：这一次我可能找到了你需要的信息。1929年4月，蒋介石给了仍在日本流亡的唐生智一大笔钱。唐回国后，用这些钱收回了他驻扎在河北东部的旧部，这些部队当时受到白崇禧的控制。这些部队在1929年10月参加了针对冯玉祥的战争。
在针对冯玉祥的战争中，唐生智的嫡系部队是第八军，同样受到唐生智指挥的还有何成浚（也被称为何成濬）、杨杰的部队，他们的军队改编自北伐期间收编的孙传芳、张宗昌旧部。其中：
1928年6月，何成浚被任命为特派员，负责改编投降的徐源泉部队。


在针对冯玉祥的战争中，唐生智部队的编制是这样的：

第五路军 总指挥唐生智
1.第八军 军长刘兴（始终追随唐生智，1928年被迫辞职，部队被白崇禧收编，后来随唐生智回到河北，重新统领旧部）
（1）第51师 师长龚浩（唐生智的同学，始终追随唐生智，与他一起流亡日本并回国。蒋桂战争期间，奉命携巨款到滦东白崇禧所部湘军中秘密召开团长以上军官会议，收买李品仙等倒戈迎唐，帮助蒋介石打垮盘据湖北的桂系胡宗铎、陶钧等部）
（2）第52师 师长刘兴
（3）第53师 师长安俊才（最早属靳云鄂，后投靠冯玉祥，在1929年5月的蒋桂战争中反冯投蒋）
2.第九军 军长何成浚
（1）第14师 师长刘春荣（原属直军靳云鹗部，后投靠胡景翼）
（2）第54师 师长魏益三（曾为东北军，随郭松龄反张作霖失败后，先后投靠冯玉祥、吴佩孚，1927年末投靠蒋介石）
3.第十军 军长杨杰（早年认识蒋介石，曾为唐继尧旧部，1928年3月起成为蒋介石的重要部下）
（1）第47师 师长王金钰（军队和师长都是孙传芳旧部，但王在蒋桂战争结束后不久被解职，取代它的上官云相曾是孙传芳旧部，但他在1927年与孙因为对奉系的态度不同而产生冲突、流亡日本，1928年回国时已经与蒋介石关系密切）
（2）第48师 师长徐源泉（军队和师长都是张宗昌旧部）


所以作者的观点是对的——但两个观点适用于不同的部分。蒋桂战争中，唐指挥的一部分部队来自他从白崇禧手中收回的旧部，另一部分则来自于蒋介石交给他的、之前已经投蒋的旧北洋军阀残部。



Update: I may have found the information you need. In April 1929, Chiang Kai-shek gave a large sum of money to Tang Shengzhi, who was still in exile in Japan at the time. After returning to China, Tang used the money to reclaim his old forces stationed in eastern Hebei, which were then under Bai Chongxi’s control. These troops later participated in the war against Feng Yuxiang in October 1929.

During the war against Feng Yuxiang, Tang Shengzhi’s core force was the 8th Army. Tang also commanded the troops of He Chengjun (also known as He Chengxun) and Yang Jie, whose armies were reorganized from the remnants of Sun Chuanfang and Zhang Zongchang's forces during the Northern Expedition. Details include:

In June 1928, He Chengjun was appointed as a special commissioner responsible for reorganizing Xu Yuanquan’s surrendered troops.


During the war against Feng Yuxiang, Tang Shengzhi’s forces were organized as follows:

· Fifth Route Army
Commander-in-Chief: Tang Shengzhi

· 8th Army
Commander: Liu Xing (a loyal follower of Tang Shengzhi, forced to resign in 1928, after which his troops were absorbed by Bai Chongxi. Later, Liu reunited with Tang in Hebei and resumed command of his old forces).
· 51st Division: Commander Gong Hao (a classmate of Tang Shengzhi and loyal follower. Gong fled to Japan with Tang and returned to China with him. During the Chiang-Gui War, Gong was ordered to secretly convene a meeting of officers above the regiment level in Bai Chongxi’s Xiang Army in eastern Luan. He successfully persuaded Li Pinxian and others to defect and support Tang, aiding Chiang Kai-shek in defeating the Guangxi Clique’s forces under Hu Zongduo and Tao Jun in Hubei).
· 52nd Division: Commander Liu Xing
· 53rd Division: Commander An Juncai (originally under Jin Yun’e, later defected to Feng Yuxiang. In May 1929, during the Chiang-Gui War, he switched allegiance from Feng to Chiang).

· 9th Army
Commander: He Chengjun
· 14th Division: Commander Liu Chunrong (formerly part of Jin Yun’e’s Zhili Army, later aligned with Hu Jingyi).
· 54th Division: Commander Wei Yisan (formerly of the Northeast Army. After Guo Songling’s failed rebellion against Zhang Zuolin, Wei successively joined Feng Yuxiang and Wu Peifu before switching to Chiang Kai-shek in late 1927).

· 10th Army
Commander: Yang Jie (an early acquaintance of Chiang Kai-shek, formerly under Tang Jiyao. He became an important subordinate of Chiang starting in March 1928).
· 47th Division: Commander Wang Jinyu (both the division and its commander were remnants of Sun Chuanfang’s forces. However, Wang was dismissed shortly after the end of the Chiang-Gui War. His replacement, Shangguan Yunxiang, also came from Sun’s forces but had fallen out with Sun in 1927 over attitudes toward the Fengtian Clique. Shangguan fled to Japan and returned to China in 1928, having established close ties with Chiang).
· 48th Division: Commander Xu Yuanquan (both the division and its commander were remnants of Zhang Zongchang’s forces).


Thus, the author’s view is correct—but the two points apply to different aspects. During the Chiang-Gui War, part of Tang Shengzhi’s forces consisted of his old troops, which he reclaimed from Bai Chongxi. The other part consisted of former Beiyang warlord remnants that had already pledged allegiance to Chiang Kai-shek.

Originally posted by 626546117:

您好。根据姜克夫《民国军事史》第二卷的记录，1929年1月1日至26日在南京召开的编遣会议决定了当时的军队编制和首脑。其中，

·第47师，师长郑俊彦，原属于孙传芳等人的直军。[1]根据互联网信息，这支部队在1928年战败后退往天津，先投靠阎锡山，后投靠蒋介石。[2]郑在1929年的编制会议结束后不久退休。根据“抗日战争纪念网”的信息，上官云相在1930年3月5日-1930年10月担任47师师长。11月起，47师由王金钰控制。[3]

·第48师，师长徐源泉，原属于张宗昌等人的直鲁联军。[1]1928年初，兵败的张宗昌残部约10万人被徐源泉组织起来，驻扎在河北昌平（现在的北京市昌平区）。[4]这支部队在1928年10月裁军后，调往湖北和江西进行训练，后来参加了围剿红军的行动。[5]尽管曾经驻扎在平津一带，但这支部队看起来并没有在1929年初仍然停留在华北。

根据姜克夫《民国军事史》第二卷的记录，1929年1月编遣会议所没有记录的武装力量中，在华北和西北地区还有阎锡山的一部分士兵、冯玉祥收编的一部分直系败军。我没有看到他们是否驻扎在平津一带的记录。

这些信息非常复杂，我的英语写作会有些吃力，所以AI将会帮助翻译过程。如果作者对英文版本的含义有问题，欢迎提问。我想表达的信息以中文版本为准。

参考文献：
[1] 姜克夫. 民国军事史·第二卷[M]. 重庆. 重庆出版社, 2009: 6-13.
[2] http://www.360doc.com/content/23/0426/14/18841360_1078223774.shtml
[3]https://baike.baidu.com/reference/2929798/533aYdO6cr3_z3kATP2NyqmkNS6RY4uqv73UBrJzzqIPmGapB5nyTcY58s0l9PkpFwTG_4tqb8FYxLDyClZE7P8XeOgrGvF_wQ
[4] https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89/3448086
[5] https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89


Hello,

According to the records in Volume 2 of Military History of the Republic of China by Jiang Kefu, the Reorganization Conference held in Nanjing from January 1 to January 26, 1929, determined the military structure and leadership at that time. Among them:

The 47th Division, commanded by Zheng Junyan, originally belonged to the Zhili Army under Sun Chuanfang and others. [1] According to online sources, this unit retreated to Tianjin after its defeat in 1928, first aligning with Yan Xishan and later with Chiang Kai-shek. [2] Zheng retired shortly after the reorganization conference concluded in 1929. According to the "Anti-Japanese War Memorial Network," Shangguan Yunxiang served as the commander of the 47th Division from March 5 to October 1930. Starting in November, Wang Jinyu took control of the division. [3]

The 48th Division, commanded by Xu Yuanquan, originally belonged to the Zhili-Shandong Coalition Army under Zhang Zongchang. [1] In early 1928, Xu organized approximately 100,000 remnants of Zhang Zongchang's defeated forces and stationed them in Changping, Hebei (now Changping District, Beijing). [4] After being downsized in October 1928, this unit was sent to Hubei and Jiangxi for training and later participated in operations to suppress the Red Army. [5] Although they were once stationed in the Beiping-Tianjin area, it seems this unit was no longer in northern China by early 1929.

According to Volume 2 of Military History of the Republic of China by Jiang Kefu, among the armed forces not recorded in the January 1929 reorganization conference, there were still some troops in northern and northwestern China under Yan Xishan and remnants of the Zhili Army integrated into Feng Yuxiang's forces. I did not find any records indicating whether they were stationed in the Beiping-Tianjin area.

These details are complex, and my English writing may be a bit challenging, so I will rely on AI to assist with the translation. If the author has any questions regarding the meaning of the English version, please feel free to ask. The information in the Chinese version should be considered authoritative.

References:
[1] 姜克夫. 民国军事史·第二卷[M]. 重庆. 重庆出版社, 2009: 6-13.
[2] http://www.360doc.com/content/23/0426/14/18841360_1078223774.shtml
[3]https://baike.baidu.com/reference/2929798/533aYdO6cr3_z3kATP2NyqmkNS6RY4uqv73UBrJzzqIPmGapB5nyTcY58s0l9PkpFwTG_4tqb8FYxLDyClZE7P8XeOgrGvF_wQ
[4] https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89/3448086
[5] https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%90%E6%BA%90%E6%B3%89

Thank you very much, because I don't have access myself to this very useful source!

I will put them in the game as remnents of Zhang Zongchang and Sun Chuanfang's troops, ready to be bribed.
Even if officially under GMD already.
While not 100% accurate, for the sake of gameplay, it will be more interesting.

Originally posted by Maestro Cinetik:

I will put them in the game as remnents of Zhang Zongchang and Sun Chuanfang's troops, ready to be bribed.
Even if officially under GMD already.
While not 100% accurate, for the sake of gameplay, it will be more interesting.

That makes sense. You can make a choice——would you put Sun Chuanfang and Zhang Zongchang's troops there to be bribed, or Bai Chongxi's? According to history, they are both ok. The only thing is, Sun and Zhang's troops are basically in Tianjin, and Bai's are in Tangshan.


Glad to make some little help to your game. I always expect for new content. Thank you.

I put them both in Tangshan.
Will probably add a Bai Chongxi troop in Tianjin

Originally posted by Maestro Cinetik:

I put them both in Tangshan.
Will probably add a Bai Chongxi troop in Tianjin

Sounds good. Looking forward to playing.