I hear everything you're saying but it REALLY sounds like you're playing the wrong game, buddy! I'm not shooting down your desires, though. What you're asking for sounds like there are quite a lot of valid alternatives, better than what even the developers of this game could make if they put the effort, including the ones you mentioned to what you're asking for. Why not just go play those games instead of a massive structure change to the one you're currently playing? We all have our opinions and they are all valid, especially to discuss, but relating to how likely it is to happen: Why would you want the developers to drop fixing all of the issues with the game they DID make just so they can work on a completely different one? For those of us such as myself that quite enjoy what we received but do have gripes and issues with some of the features, if they did what you were suggesting then we'd all be in the dust to please people that don't even find the game worthwhile to play in the first place.

I'm not sure if you've played this game. If you haven't then you should give it a try before judging. If you have then I understand this game just isn't for you and TRUST ME, we all know how it feels to love the Starship Troopers IP and barely having anything to play in it's universe. A lot of love was put into Terran Command. It's vision just isn't what you are asking for (I'm not even sure what "Space Battles" mean in the Starship Troopers universe, mind you...) and, though I respect your desires, I would rather a completely different game come out to satiate this kind of video game player than destroying what makes Terran Command so good by changing the entire game into this ruleset.




Now if you're asking for it to be a separate game mode, then sure! Would be cool if it was doable but I doubt it. The Artistocrats already have their hands full with the modes they're working on and what you're asking is astronomical compared to what they have cooking already. I wish you luck on getting your Starship Troopers fix elsewhere if a game like this came out. I'll be there playing it with you.

No amount of fixing is going to turn this game around, it's just too limited, even at it's most balanced complete state this game is going to feel inadequate

This game failed to captivate as the movies did. So there is still a void to be filled

We need a better game than this to enthrall us in this universe a game that truly delivers and captivates the gamer into this world and makes the player want to keep playing it beyond just a few hrs

This game just isn't it, I spent more time in AOE3 and COH in skirmish modes with bots than playing this game, that says a lot about this game failing to deliver an RTS experience on par with other greats

if these guys can't do it, hopefully someone else can

But it needs to be a different gamestyle and not RTS

This game has proven that's future is elsewhere and not in RTS

It needs to be something more grand, more sandbox with more significant mechanics to get the player invested in the Armies and Units he uses. This game made it all feel so soul less and life less

They could get some lessons from Warband, Total War and Age of Wonders 3

Warband you can roam around and then choose your battles, you can grow your warband and equip your companions, a band of Starship Troopers like the RoughNecks would be a great way to play the game

Rome Total War offers the foundation to the war machine, you have develop buildings and doctrines to guide your people sign up for units as soldiers and train them, then deploy them and move them around on a campaign map and then move them into battles and finally actually control the units in battles or sectors, but the comabt has to be better than this RTS version. More grand, more soldiers, more enemies

Age Of Wonders 3 could be used as an example but do it with hex grid turn based combat, but you still conduct your city building and army stack movement around the map to engage in the hex grid battlefield and units get better with experience in a way that makes them veterans for the entire campaign and they become regulars that you care for to make it to the end

any of these templates of games would serve better for the next starship trooper game

the RTS one is a flop for me

no thanks prefer this game

its sounds like you want to play an entirely a different game. Which is ok. But this is definetely not it.

You could have come to terms with your own expectations first instead of choosing to project your disappointment onto an innocent party.

The game is exactly what it wants to be - a strategy RPG done in an old-school way.

I actually agree that there's an opportunity to use the game assets for some kind of action title - that would be exciting.


Reading your words, you could actually be talking about yourself and your life with this negative talk. Perhaps it's your responsibility to fill that void:

Originally posted by Move2Bastyon:

No amount of fixing is going to turn this game around, it's just too limited, even at it's most balanced complete state this game is going to feel inadequate

So there is still a void to be filled

It is just some honest feedback and an honest view that most people won't give because they may lack the deep gaming experience

This should be taken as positive advice

Someone could exploit this void and make some serious money by exploiting a gap in the market as I am freely sharing, as it will be a huge success

Making repetitive games that are inferior to what has already come before them with just a new graphical skin is never going to capture a wide audience as the advice I am sharing

But it's a larger project and requires people with vision and understanding about what makes good gaming, it requires passion for gaming, and the money will follow

Your lack of understanding of any of this and attempting to make it personal as if this was some kind of attack and getting defensive about it demonstrates a lack of maturity and nothing else

Sometimes you need to just accept that other people are giving you honest advice that if you listen instead of resisting you may actually have a chance at benefiting from it

on the other hand, when you cannot see the benefit in the words read. Then you were not the target audience. So any such childish irrelevant responses have no significance.

The reality is the team created exactly the kind of game they were passionate to make - and it's already considered a commercial success.

These posts have been quite dismissive and belittling towards the team behind Starship Troopers: Terran Command - IMO to the point of extreme rudeness.

When a person like me has played so many games and knows good games from ordinary games, it is not the same as someone who is just excited to give out money for any new thing that comes out and then drops it like a bad odour

That is sadly the only market that you are currently tapping into, the people that throw money away on things just because they look shiny and exciting at first glance

But real gamers want real games with some substance and longevity and most importantly fun gameplay that is consistently rewarding and satisfying to play

Sadly this game had a very short fun curve it lasted merely two hours, and that's just not enough in the gaming industry these days

If this was a movie, fair enough

But this is a game, and it is being charged at a price above a movie, that people will watch for free later anyway. This game is barely worth 5-10 bucks in what it offers, and that is being generous in the marketplace of games today.

The point being that I am not here to belittle or dismiss or stand against this tiny limited success

I am here to state what the next better vision should be to actually make a true impact both for fans of gaming and fans of the universe

There is nothing extremely rude about that

It is the sensible thing to do

If someone doesn't do it, then it is an opportunity waiting to be exploited

I just hope there are some decent developers still left out there that know what I am talking about, because most are such sensitive spoiled brats that think they are better than what they are and don't know good advice when it is freely offered

and the proof is in their actions and their results

sometimes a game can be a hit when it is simple, if it's the first of its kind, such as tetris. But when you keep rebuilding tetris over and over again and you just put a different skins on tetris, it's still tetris - you have to take the recipe and improve it significantly to really make a lasting impact on the gaming world - otherwise you become almost one hit wonders

You're always going to get a few die hard fans that this connects with, but to make a wider impact on the gaming scene you need a game that is far more grand and epic, offers the players more freedom of choices, a progression system that is satisfying and rewarding, a very engaging immersive game world that attaches a persons interest with the gaming possibilities

Imagine breaking new grounds where you have a game where your in the space fleet heading towards a bug world and the bugs launch a new type of bug cocoon missile at the ships that penetrate the ships hulls and then bug soldiers come out to fight the soldiers throughout the ship and with the goal to take over the ship and use one of their queens to command the Human Ships to counter the Other Earths Ships

This could open up so many new playstyles and game modes, from a first person perspective or from a tactical perspective similar to x4 and other such games

You have to look at games that are offering people freedom of choice to choose and make their own adventure inside the game world, those are long lasting games that can continue to deliver content and still get paid while doing it. When your game has too limited a scope you aren't going to have any staying power

having only 100-200 players active is tiny, that is not to be disparaging , it's just a fact

Well I appreciate the display and will consider it a warning :p

If I find myself becoming grandiose when my pride is injured, I'll remember this example. Take care.

Kinda tldr so just skimmed, but it just sounds like you don't want to play an RTS game op? Like buying AoE2 and then being confused about why it doesn't have a strategic over-layer.

There are plenty of space 4X/Grand Strategy games out there, none specifically Starship Troopers of course. But you can play Stellaris for example with Citizen Federation (I think that's the name) and pretty easily make a Troopers-esque nation.

Kind of sounds like what ur looking for is; Star Wars: Empire at War x Starship Troopers: Terran Command type of game.
Which would be really cool game, but it does not seem to be what the developers have in mind.

You are asking the wrong developers

Originally posted by MeToLee:

its sounds like you want to play an entirely a different game. Which is ok. But this is definetely not it.

+1

dude i'm 42 years old i i've played over a 1000 video games i think i know what i like
man the game you want you couldn't get me to play even if you where paying me to play it

Originally posted by Move2Bastyon:

Use the Assets and mechanics to actually provide a grand sandbox campaign galaxy map with planet/city/oupost development, fleet/army development with supported economy and then include the battles that players choose to go into and planets they choose to invade

include moving armies in space to the planets for battles in different sectors, scouting and actual strategy and tactics

this game is about 5% of a larger game that could be built

look at the earlier total war games, where you could develop the cities, grow your army and then also engage in the battles

you need to do that, but better and with the starship trooper universe

then you might be onto something worthwhile me playing, and only if you do it well

Wrong company to ask for actual improvements. And i'd offer more points but i am low so i gotta rasion them. but solid points regardless!