plenty of mods for that specific aspect of the game.

the minecraft art style grew on me. i was not a fan at first either, but the game play is so good i got used to the art.

ai art? you mean the athletes?

it was at least based off their own artists drawings not stolen

Originally posted by Vent:

It was at least based off their own artists drawings not stolen

They should have at least done some basic touching up, some of the models are hilariously grotesque in their proportions or silhouette

Your brain is rot

Go sit in the corner

Yeah I really don't care that the athletes are ai generated.
It's such a small part of the game and I think the end result is worth the "sacrifice." Having hundreds athlete portraits is nice and it's fairly rare that you see duplicates because of it.

If that bothers you, there's also workshop support where you can download any number of athlete portraits people have compiled that they've stolen from other media or the likenesses of real people.

Hmm...

Originally posted by Garble:

Yeah I really don't care that the athletes are ai generated.
It's such a small part of the game and I think the end result is worth the "sacrifice." Having hundreds athlete portraits is nice and it's fairly rare that you see duplicates because of it.

If that bothers you, there's also workshop support where you can download any number of athlete portraits people have compiled that they've stolen from other media or the likenesses of real people.

Hmm...

Well the difference is im not paying the mod artist for the content theyre using, so they dont make money off it as if its art theyve created. Even if I use the mods however, the devs still get paid for the stolen ai art.

Originally posted by HalfCenturyLater:

Originally posted by Garble:

Yeah I really don't care that the athletes are ai generated.
It's such a small part of the game and I think the end result is worth the "sacrifice." Having hundreds athlete portraits is nice and it's fairly rare that you see duplicates because of it.

If that bothers you, there's also workshop support where you can download any number of athlete portraits people have compiled that they've stolen from other media or the likenesses of real people.

Hmm...

Well the difference is im not paying the mod artist for the content theyre using, so they dont make money off it as if its art theyve created. Even if I use the mods however, the devs still get paid for the stolen ai art.

They use their own contents to train the AI. As long as they are not lying, it's hard to argue that they have stolen anything.

But then, genuine question, have you ever found any of the following unethical to use, and have you yourself use or benefit from any of them:
- Google translate
- Google map
- Gmail spam filtering
- Bank fraud detection
- Recommendation systems from app like Spotify, Netflix, Amazon, etc.
- Phone camera that auto-focus on people's face
- Voice assistant (Siri, Alexa)

If you do, what separate these from AI-generated art then?

Idk genius why dont you get a formal education in computer science and then you can answer your own stupid question. Why wouldn't the AI developed by spotify to recommend music for me not be an ethical issue the same way generative ai trained on stolen art to replace artists is?

Originally posted by HalfCenturyLater:

Idk genius why dont you get a formal education in computer science and then you can answer your own stupid question.

I did.

Originally posted by HalfCenturyLater:

Why wouldn't the AI developed by spotify to recommend music for me not be an ethical issue the same way generative ai trained on stolen art to replace artists is?

So, why? The applications I list highly likely also contains non-consent data to train their model.

Yeah I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink. Ive already, and society has already, thoroughly explained the moral issues with generative AI (specifically images) and it obviously has nothing to do with privacy/data selling which is an issue regardless of whether AI is involved at all. You are pretending not to understand because you want it to seem complicated.

Originally posted by HalfCenturyLater:

Yeah I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink.

No offense, but base on the current conversation, you are more like the dirt on the side-way rather than the horse leader, since none of the reply contains any actual useful information.

Originally posted by HalfCenturyLater:

Ive already, and society has already, thoroughly explained the moral issues with generative AI (specifically images) and it obviously has nothing to do with privacy/data selling which is an issue regardless of whether AI is involved at all.

Is stolen art not relate to consensus issue? Does using non-consensus data for model training not considered as using stolen data?

And honestly have no idea why you mention data selling since it has nothing to do with the current topic, but then, as far as I could tell from our conversation, your knowledge do not seem to be sufficient when talking about these matters from the way you avoid answering the questions.

Originally posted by HalfCenturyLater:

You are pretending not to understand because you want it to seem complicated.

Wish I do. It's not that I don't understand why gen AI is an issue ethically, and I agree with it. What I'm baffle is why does the established AI applications not as hated even though they also use stolen data for training (which is why I ask you since you are quite advocate about AI, but kinda disappoint that you don't provide any meaningful insight). The only reason I can come up with is that they are not as useful and don't pose as a high risk of job replacement as gen AI (which I do agree as a pretty big issue since my job as a softdev is also in big danger).

I think I must end the conversation here. It has been quite an experience talking to someone who really do not know how to provide counter-argument, which is honestly kinda exhausting that I don't wish to experience again.

Thank you for so graciously ending the condescending and masturbatory conversation you started lmfao. Feel free to consult chatgpt or deepseek with any further ethical questions you might have since they probably have a better understanding of it than you do despite you being human and (ostensibly) participating in human society.