Nope, this is a simulator. ECM is OP in real life. During Desert Storm the iraqi fighter pilots can´t comunicate with ground control or other planes because USAF saturated their comms with country music. It was impossibe for that planes to carry out their missiones, it was an OP move. Believe it or not, Saddam didn´t appear on TV to say "pls nerf USA, too OP".

Most radars are designed to operate under ECM pressure. And the newer they are, the more resistant they become. Also, ECM is a directional thing. You can't blind all 360 degrees of a radar with EW emission from one direction. Also ECM efficiency should be dependant on distance. Longer the distance - smaller the EW power.

P.S.
I wonder why you talk about realism when you cite vastly irrelevant facts.

USAF? Who talked about USAF? It works the same way for eveyone.

What some basic voice radios and "planes, which have to carry out their missiones" have do do with abilities of large naval radars to withstand ECM?

And finally: pointing to imaginery Iraqi TV programs, that you probably never even watched at all, is the lowest point of your post.

I would keep my point.
EW planes are very overpowered.
1-2 of them, and you could destroy whole fleets practically unopposed.

Originally posted by 101GHOST:

Nope, this is a simulator. ECM is OP in real life. During Desert Storm the iraqi fighter pilots can´t comunicate with ground control or other planes because USAF saturated their comms with country music. It was impossibe for that planes to carry out their missiones, it was an OP move. Believe it or not, Saddam didn´t appear on TV to say "pls nerf USA, too OP".

Electronic warfare was done by about 50 ECM aircrafts. Including big ones like 130. And this is not the same as we have in game when 1 plane totally blinds battlegroup of any size.

The amount of stupidity and nonsense you wrote in you message only make me say: "please step away from keyboard".

Originally posted by rgreat:

Most radars are designed to operate under ECM pressure. And the newer they are, the more resistant they become. Also, ECM is a directional thing. You can't blind all 360 degrees of a radar with EW emission from one direction. Also ECM efficiency should be dependant on distance. Longer the distance - smaller the EW power.

P.S.
I wonder why you talk about realism when you cite vastly irrelevant facts.

USAF? Who talked about USAF? It works the same way for eveyone.

What some basic voice radios and "planes, which have to carry out their missiones" have do do with abilities of large naval radars to withstand ECM?

And finally: pointing to imaginery Iraqi TV programs, that you probably never even watched at all, is the lowest point of your post.

I used to to SIGINT and EW as a 2600 in the Marines which is also called a CT in the navy.

Radio waves are not "usually" directional. The type of jammers which the EA6B and EA18 are do not do "directional" jamming. The Jamming done by ships or Helo's are also not directional either. There is a point at which there is called "burn through" where the Radar or Radio signal is strong enough to overcome it or at least be less degraded by it but it is a function of range and power vs age of radar. Radio waves do not care how new your radar is and as the Radar switches bands the EW system can pick up those new bands and Jam them as well. We even had the ability to "look thru" which meant we could jam a signal only when the target was transmitting. That way the target could not tell that it was being jammed. The rest of the world could but not the target itself.

Originally posted by _RAM_:

Originally posted by 101GHOST:

Nope, this is a simulator. ECM is OP in real life. During Desert Storm the iraqi fighter pilots can´t comunicate with ground control or other planes because USAF saturated their comms with country music. It was impossibe for that planes to carry out their missiones, it was an OP move. Believe it or not, Saddam didn´t appear on TV to say "pls nerf USA, too OP".

Electronic warfare was done by about 50 ECM aircrafts. Including big ones like 130. And this is not the same as we have in game when 1 plane totally blinds battlegroup of any size.

The amount of stupidity and nonsense you wrote in you message only make me say: "please step away from keyboard".

You only need one aircraft per flight or even one aircraft to shut down an area of combat. Remember this plane is not flying low to the ground it is very high so it has LOS to all the receivers. Picture jamming like this , you and I are having a conversation in english. Someone is yelling next to us making it hard to hear. Just because we switch to german or change our tone of voice doesnt mean you can hear any better until you get close enough to me for you to hear me. You do not need "50 planes" to accomplish a mission just a handful to lock down an entire area.

You dont understand how it works. Not even close

Originally posted by _RAM_:

You dont understand how it works. Not even close

if you are referring to me? I went to the Naval Electronic Warfare school at Corry Station in Pensacola FL and graduated at the top of my class... then i went on to server 14 years in the sigint/electronic warfare community

what have you done slick?

Originally posted by Necrozis:

Picture jamming like this , you and I are having a conversation in english. Someone is yelling next to us making it hard to hear. Just because we switch to german or change our tone of voice doesnt mean you can hear any better until you get close enough to me for you to hear me.

I would not go into actual EW details, as it is complicated, but your analogy is void.

I bet you know about Active Noise Cancellation Headphones, and yet give out such misleading theories.

For example Peltor tactical headphones. The ones you wear at gunnery range or at the combat field.
They would filter out loud noise like shots and explosions, while amplify quiet conversations and noises.
Nothing is impossible. You just need the right hardware and software.

Originally posted by 101GHOST:

Nope, this is a simulator. ECM is OP in real life. During Desert Storm the iraqi fighter pilots can´t comunicate with ground control or other planes because USAF saturated their comms with country music. It was impossibe for that planes to carry out their missiones, it was an OP move. Believe it or not, Saddam didn´t appear on TV to say "pls nerf USA, too OP".

lol with a single plane the most you can do is block cellular signals and jam communications and several non-critical systems, giving the example of ONE AIRCRAFT, argentina used a Boeing 707 VR-21 with the SIGINT system to jam coms of a coup attempt and another (operation “Grifo”) to test the UK electronic defenses, meanwhile (for some reason) in CM with only ONE EW you can jam signals from whole battlegroups, that's understandable, the game is still green and for sure they will fix it later, but don't write stupid things you don't know crap about, you only make yourself look like an idiot

Originally posted by 101GHOST:

Nope, this is a simulator. ECM is OP in real life. During Desert Storm the iraqi fighter pilots can´t comunicate with ground control or other planes because USAF saturated their comms with country music. It was impossibe for that planes to carry out their missiones, it was an OP move. Believe it or not, Saddam didn´t appear on TV to say "pls nerf USA, too OP".

So irl they use one plane lol😅

Originally posted by rgreat:

Originally posted by Necrozis:

Picture jamming like this , you and I are having a conversation in english. Someone is yelling next to us making it hard to hear. Just because we switch to german or change our tone of voice doesnt mean you can hear any better until you get close enough to me for you to hear me.

I would not go into actual EW details, as it is complicated, but your analogy is void.

I bet you know about Active Noise Cancellation Headphones, and yet give out such misleading theories.

For example Peltor tactical headphones. The ones you wear at gunnery range or at the combat field.
They would filter out loud noise like shots and explosions, while amplify quiet conversations and noises.
Nothing is impossible. You just need the right hardware and software.

i was trying to make the concept simple with the sound example

Originally posted by rgreat:

Originally posted by Necrozis:

Picture jamming like this , you and I are having a conversation in english. Someone is yelling next to us making it hard to hear. Just because we switch to german or change our tone of voice doesnt mean you can hear any better until you get close enough to me for you to hear me.

I would not go into actual EW details, as it is complicated, but your analogy is void.

I bet you know about Active Noise Cancellation Headphones, and yet give out such misleading theories.

For example Peltor tactical headphones. The ones you wear at gunnery range or at the combat field.
They would filter out loud noise like shots and explosions, while amplify quiet conversations and noises.
Nothing is impossible. You just need the right hardware and software.

and no it doesnt work like that you cant just "filter out" stuff. It is RF energy being blasted onto the frequency. Until one overpowers the other you cant do anything about it other than hope it stops

Think of it like using some wireless earbuds. Normally, you can listen to music, or talk to someone on a call.
Now someone (an EA-6B) with a special antenna points it at you. Suddenly, you're overwhelmed with pure signal in its rawest form. Nothing gets in, and little can get out. Your music is still playing, and you're still on that call, but everything else is about 90x louder.
Modern earbuds can filter some of that noise out. Older ones can't. You're using the older ones.
Yeah, EA-6Bs can destroy whole fleets. Don't like? Mod it or DON'T USE THEM. It's a singleplayer game, bro, you can just choose not to use EW.