Are you worried about multiplayer?

It's EA. if you don't have faith in further development then wait it out and see it unfold till release before you buy it. Not sure what else there is to be anxious about for this to be 'dead'.

No, I don't think so. I'm going to wait to see how things work out before I buy, some are waiting for MP and the rest are possibly waiting for full release.

The fact its EA prevents it from displaying in the Steam main screen as a new game so that will have hidden it from a lot of peoples notice. I didn't even know this game had been released until I stumbled on it yesterday. The devs might have been better releasing it as a fully finished game and releasing Supernova as a paid expansion in 6 months.

Originally posted by Nats:

The fact its EA prevents it from displaying in the Steam main screen as a new game so that will have hidden it from a lot of peoples notice. I didn't even know this game had been released until I stumbled on it yesterday. The devs might have been better releasing it as a fully finished game and releasing Supernova as a paid expansion in 6 months.

Originally posted by __Kicks￣:

Hesitant to buy this. Game has been out for 3 days and only has 28 reviews, that's extremely low.

Well if you are foolish enough to buy on subjective review - then No one can really help you.

Originally posted by pete:

Well if you are foolish enough to buy on subjective review - then No one can really help you.

I was initially unimpressed when I found out this game was sold on Epic first and it's actually a year old. It is now being revised and improved as a Steam Early Access game. After reading the devs responses though, and looking more into the gameplay of what is on offer at the moment in the EA version of the game, I was impressed enough to buy it despite my initial misgivings. I will be writing a critical review of the EA version in due course.

Originally posted by Nats:

Originally posted by pete:

Well if you are foolish enough to buy on subjective review - then No one can really help you.

I was initially unimpressed when I found out this game was sold on Epic first and it's actually a year old. It is now being revised and improved as a Steam Early Access game. After reading the devs responses though, and looking more into the gameplay of what is on offer at the moment in the EA version of the game, I was impressed enough to buy it despite my initial misgivings. I will be writing a critical review of the EA version in due course.

A balanced view. If people don't like Epic - well thst's their choice - Just as it is Stardock's choice where to launch/sell their product

Originally posted by pete:

Originally posted by Nats:

The fact its EA prevents it from displaying in the Steam main screen as a new game so that will have hidden it from a lot of peoples notice. I didn't even know this game had been released until I stumbled on it yesterday. The devs might have been better releasing it as a fully finished game and releasing Supernova as a paid expansion in 6 months.

Originally posted by __Kicks￣:

Hesitant to buy this. Game has been out for 3 days and only has 28 reviews, that's extremely low.

Well if you are foolish enough to buy on subjective review - then No one can really help you.

Nah. 28 reviews just means the game is selling like dog water. I don't really care if they are positive or not. If it sells so poorly it will likely be abandonded quickly.

Originally posted by __Kicks￣:

Originally posted by pete:

Well if you are foolish enough to buy on subjective review - then No one can really help you.

Nah. 28 reviews just means the game is selling like dog water. I don't really care if they are positive or not. If it sells so poorly it will likely be abandonded quickly.

28 reviews means that 28 people bothered to review - that's it. Everything else is speculative

Originally posted by pete:

Originally posted by __Kicks￣:

Nah. 28 reviews just means the game is selling like dog water. I don't really care if they are positive or not. If it sells so poorly it will likely be abandonded quickly.

28 reviews means that 28 people bothered to review - that's it. Everything else is speculative

Yep. But with an educated guess, you can extrapolate that number into copies sold. It's a good indication.

To verify, I just checked steamcharts. And there are indeed only a couple hundred people playing with a peak of just over 350 players. This game is truelly dead on arrival.

Now, it depends on how much money it is costing the devs whether or not this game will still be alive in a few months time. If it's indie enough, it might survive for longer. I don't like abandonwear, so I will not buy this game until It is fleshed out enough to no longer require additional content, balance changes and bug fixes.

Originally posted by __Kicks￣:

Originally posted by pete:

28 reviews means that 28 people bothered to review - that's it. Everything else is speculative

Yep. But with an educated guess, you can extrapolate that number into copies sold. It's a good indication.

To verify, I just checked steamcharts. And there are indeed only a couple hundred people playing with a peak of just over 350 players. This game is truelly dead on arrival.

Now, it depends on how much money it is costing the devs whether or not this game will still be alive in a few months time. If it's indie enough, it might survive for longer. I'll check back in half a year.

Key words in your post - educated guess and extrapolate.

I'm sure that the peak 350 players will be happy to be described as dead players.

If you are convinced its DOA - the WHY did you bother asking? See ya have a good life

Originally posted by __Kicks￣:

Nah. 28 reviews just means the game is selling like dog water. I don't really care if they are positive or not. If it sells so poorly it will likely be abandonded quickly.

OK, so the GalCiv series is Stardock CEO (Brad Wardell, aka Draginol, aka Frogboy) pet project for 30 years - no way is it going to get abandoned. I imagine Brad is currently like a kid in a sweet shop playing with the advances in AI technology (AI development really is his thing), so will be wanting to incorporate as much as he can into GC4.

Stardock have a history of long development support for their games, and the final version is usually far superior than the initial release. Expect a few years of major updates and expansions and continued minor tweaks and fixes for a number of years beyond - probably until GC5 is released.

He's a troll guys, I'd stop trying, you aren't having a face value conversation with him.

What would have been a day one purchase when announced, is now a long wait and see.

That it's early access doesn't bug me, but reading the forums, and seeing that people need epic online login and can't have epic blocked to use all the features is a red flag for me. If I didn't want anything to do with epic last year, why would that change this year? And it could be all blown smoke, but I am not taking the word of day 1 reviews by fanboys who have spent next to no time with it, nor the word of the devs who tried to get me to bounce yet again to another platform (impulse to steam to epic)

So once people really dig in, and we get to see what is what, then I will consider it

Originally posted by FinalDustination:

He's a troll guys, I'd stop trying, you aren't having a face value conversation with him.

Oh no, you have nothing to say so you just call me a troll. Truelly bringing nothing to the conversation. Rather pathetic.

Originally posted by magnumaniac:

Originally posted by __Kicks￣:

Nah. 28 reviews just means the game is selling like dog water. I don't really care if they are positive or not. If it sells so poorly it will likely be abandonded quickly.

OK, so the GalCiv series is Stardock CEO (Brad Wardell, aka Draginol, aka Frogboy) pet project for 30 years - no way is it going to get abandoned. I imagine Brad is currently like a kid in a sweet shop playing with the advances in AI technology (AI development really is his thing), so will be wanting to incorporate as much as he can into GC4.

Stardock have a history of long development support for their games, and the final version is usually far superior than the initial release. Expect a few years of major updates and expansions and continued minor tweaks and fixes for a number of years beyond - probably until GC5 is released.

Only sensible comment in this entire thread, and the reason I made the post in the first place. If what you say is true then my worries of this getting abandoned have lowered substantially.