Wait until you get to the Witch dungeon's lower floors, even the enemies will give you a good time.
If a boss has adds, it's a good idea to keep an explosion gem (single use) to quickly wipe the adds before they take all your health away.

For bosses, reduce their def with Sunder, increase attack with advanced shield gems (cant remember the name), stack burn damage with burn gems, that kind of stuff.
Two healers is recommended.

Originally posted by Zanameth:

Wait until you get to the Witch dungeon's lower floors, even the enemies will give you a good time.
If a boss has adds, it's a good idea to keep an explosion gem (single use) to quickly wipe the adds before they take all your health away.

For bosses, reduce their def with Sunder, increase attack with advanced shield gems (cant remember the name), stack burn damage with burn gems, that kind of stuff.
Two healers is recommended.

bleh dude i had a nearly invincible party that not only abosrobed all damage, but healed every turn, had attack and speed buffs and nothign in 3 floors could touch me, the tree ate my lunch in seconds. and the game started bugging out hardcore, the magic mirror item gummed up the game. mnade me skip several turns

Originally posted by TemmieNeko:

Originally posted by Zanameth:

Wait until you get to the Witch dungeon's lower floors, even the enemies will give you a good time.
If a boss has adds, it's a good idea to keep an explosion gem (single use) to quickly wipe the adds before they take all your health away.

For bosses, reduce their def with Sunder, increase attack with advanced shield gems (cant remember the name), stack burn damage with burn gems, that kind of stuff.
Two healers is recommended.

bleh dude i had a nearly invincible party that not only abosrobed all damage, but healed every turn, had attack and speed buffs and nothign in 3 floors could touch me, the tree ate my lunch in seconds. and the game started bugging out hardcore, the magic mirror item gummed up the game. mnade me skip several turns

Well, same thing happened to me on like floor 10. A group of five mobs wiped my entire party like it was nothing. Was so sudden I couldn't do anything.
It seems that the later dungeons require some specific enemy counters, unlike the previous dungeons where you could pretty much go with whatever.

Originally posted by Zanameth:

Originally posted by TemmieNeko:

bleh dude i had a nearly invincible party that not only abosrobed all damage, but healed every turn, had attack and speed buffs and nothign in 3 floors could touch me, the tree ate my lunch in seconds. and the game started bugging out hardcore, the magic mirror item gummed up the game. mnade me skip several turns

Well, same thing happened to me on like floor 10. A group of five mobs wiped my entire party like it was nothing. Was so sudden I couldn't do anything.
It seems that the later dungeons require some specific enemy counters, unlike the previous dungeons where you could pretty much go with whatever.

im feeling the startegy is a bit broken when 99% of the crystals are bronze tier with no activated symbols

You have to build towards the first two bosses or you will get destroyed. IMO the 2nd boss is substantially harder. How many symbols do you have active by the first boss? Which ones?

99% of the crystals are bronze tier with no activated symbols

No activated symbols? Sounds like you might be going about it wrong then. Also, you should be focused on bronze units on the first 6 or 7 floors, just to build up as many symbols as you can. You can buy your end-dungeon gold/silver units towards the middle/end. The shops at the bottom floors sell silver units at around 1/3 rate and gold at 10-15%, so it's not hard to get grade 2 gold and grade 3 silver units if you can get past the 2nd boss.

Originally posted by Izunyami:

You have to build towards the first two bosses or you will get destroyed. IMO the 2nd boss is substantially harder. How many symbols do you have active by the first boss? Which ones?

99% of the crystals are bronze tier with no activated symbols

No activated symbols? Sounds like you might be going about it wrong then. Also, you should be focused on bronze units on the first 6 or 7 floors, just to build up as many symbols as you can. You can buy your end-dungeon gold/silver units towards the middle/end. The shops at the bottom floors sell silver units at around 1/3 rate and gold at 10-15%, so it's not hard to get grade 2 gold and grade 3 silver units if you can get past the 2nd boss.

the moving caravan shop has gold at 0% for me always lol

Originally posted by TemmieNeko:

Originally posted by Izunyami:

You have to build towards the first two bosses or you will get destroyed. IMO the 2nd boss is substantially harder. How many symbols do you have active by the first boss? Which ones?



No activated symbols? Sounds like you might be going about it wrong then. Also, you should be focused on bronze units on the first 6 or 7 floors, just to build up as many symbols as you can. You can buy your end-dungeon gold/silver units towards the middle/end. The shops at the bottom floors sell silver units at around 1/3 rate and gold at 10-15%, so it's not hard to get grade 2 gold and grade 3 silver units if you can get past the 2nd boss.

the moving caravan shop has gold at 0% for me always lol

Yes, it'll be 0% at the lower levels. It'll rise as you go deeper; you shouldn't be trying to use gold units at lower levels or you'll end up shorting yourself on symbols.

Originally posted by Izunyami:

Originally posted by TemmieNeko:

the moving caravan shop has gold at 0% for me always lol

Yes, it'll be 0% at the lower levels. It'll rise as you go deeper; you shouldn't be trying to use gold units at lower levels or you'll end up shorting yourself on symbols.

alrighty, I was trying to not use them before, but the game gave me the impression gold and silver growsmore and is moreuseful lol

In this game making good use of combos seem more impactful than just straight up higher rarity units, just beat the 10th floor boss with it doing almost no damage though it took a while because the boss has so much health. I think later floors might need a bit of health nerf?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2500246632

Some units are great though, Labla + 2 giant swords is great, you can use it every turn and they get buffed by sun combo attack buff

Originally posted by Fiesta Bot:

In this game making good use of combos seem more impactful than just straight up higher rarity units, just beat the 10th floor boss with it doing almost no damage though it took a while because the boss has so much health. I think later floors might need a bit of health nerf?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2500246632

Some units are great though, Labla + 2 giant swords is great, you can use it every turn and they get buffed by sun combo attack buff

yeah HP is off the charts imo.
the game goesfrom no challenge at all, to super tight bloated HP bosses in a snap, it feels bloody awful

I just ran into the tree boss in the 6th dungeon and he ended my entire career in two hits lmao

Granted it was a bad start with not many good combos coming into b5f but that didn't seem fair

(and now I know you can't skip a boss by going to the treasure vault)

Originally posted by TemmieNeko:

Originally posted by Izunyami:

Yes, it'll be 0% at the lower levels. It'll rise as you go deeper; you shouldn't be trying to use gold units at lower levels or you'll end up shorting yourself on symbols.

alrighty, I was trying to not use them before, but the game gave me the impression gold and silver growsmore and is moreuseful lol

Gold and silver are more useful. A gold unit at rank 1 (3 copies) is stronger than a bronze at full rank. But what is most important are the symbols, not the stats of the units. You can max out your team after the 2nd boss - just focus on getting as many symbols built up as you can on the first 6 or so floors. If you get a gold unit you like, keep it, but don't waste gold on them in the shop. Start acquiring silvers at like floor 4 or 5, unless you think you can get 3 copies for a symbol.

The green symbol especially, as getting +100-300 health, per unit, is huge.

Originally posted by Fiesta Bot:

I just ran into the tree boss in the 6th dungeon and he ended my entire career in two hits lmao

Granted it was a bad start with not many good combos coming into b5f but that didn't seem fair

(and now I know you can't skip a boss by going to the treasure vault)

Yeah, the tree boss might be a bit too strong in damage, at least since there isn't much you can do to mitigate magic damage. Even the magic defense amulet, at double power with the earrings, don't seem to help mitigate the damage. All of those 2nd tier bosses (tree, sharks, and rock turtle) seem to have insanely high damage relative to their floor. They're beatable, but they're a lot tougher than the rest of the bosses imo.