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CoopaTroopa 25 Dec, 2021 @ 2:58pm
Looking for help with secrets
At this point I've done quite a few of the secret parts (and I'm willing to help out if anyone wants any) but at the moment I'm stuck on a few parts, so any help would be appreciated.

First, the pictures on the wall near the overseers terminal. Two of them are from AnoMalice, and the other two show how to access the fetus path in two of the levels, both of which seem to give a hint on other secrets as well. For the AnoMalice ones, has anyone got anything? I've opened the game and checked what has been marked in the pictures, but there doesn't seem to be anything important, and the games itch.io download hasn't been updated. And for the other two has anyone figured out what the "eye monitor with controller" on one of the fetus paths is supposed to hint at, if anything? The other fetus path has an image that hints at how to get the "Language" achievement, but I can't figure out if this one has any meaning.

Second, the door with a french note in front of it. I've got absolutely no idea whats going on here, even after translating the text, so any help at all would be appreciated. Solved!

Finally, and probably most obviously, the symbol language. I'm under the impression that you need to be able to translate it for some of the puzzles, but I'm pretty sure that over Estigma, AnoMalice, and Teocida the only letters we know for a fact are HELP. I'm thinking Estigma might have some better opportunities to try and figure it out, but if anyone has any better ideas or has already decoded it I'd like to know! Turns out its actually very easy to figure out the symbol language through Estigma, so if anyone else is stuck here give that a go! Actually turns out that the Estigma symbol language is different and I didn't notice until I finished, oops. Solved!

I love these games, especially the secrets, so I'm looking forward to figuring out the rest of this!
Last edited by CoopaTroopa; 29 Dec, 2021 @ 5:53pm
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CoopaTroopa 25 Dec, 2021 @ 3:45pm 
For the Symbol Language, the only lead I can think of is that there are 26 achievements, each with a symbol from the language. Unfortunately I can't figure out a way to get any information from that, since the only thing I could think of (using the order of achievements to figure out the language, ie 1st achievement symbol = A, 2nd = B) didn't work.
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Lesserred 25 Dec, 2021 @ 10:22pm 
Coopa, you were right in thinking the alphabet is the order of the achievements. The translation is in portuguese though, not english. so you'll have to translate your translation.
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CoopaTroopa 26 Dec, 2021 @ 2:36am 
I was wondering if that was the case, thanks a bunch!
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Lesserred 26 Dec, 2021 @ 11:46am 
You figure anything out with the french door yet? I’m pretty sure that’s the last secret I have left to figure out. I have yet to translate the big sheet next to the terminal that’s entirely in the symbol language as well.
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CoopaTroopa 26 Dec, 2021 @ 3:08pm 
I'm down to the door as well now (well, barring the area with the two skulls you can access with your clone in polarity by walking into the smiling thing with no eyes and whether the AnoMalice stuff means anything), but the only thing I've noticed so far is that the symbols on the right list two different sections as first.

Guess I'm gonna translate the symbol document next and see if it helps any.
Last edited by CoopaTroopa; 26 Dec, 2021 @ 3:08pm
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Lesserred 26 Dec, 2021 @ 3:19pm 
Oh I did not know about that skull room,(edit: turns out I did know about this room, but I got there via a bug instead) lemme know if you translate the big document. Also I think the symbols on the left of the French document have some kinda significance too, just no idea what.
Also the last line of the French note, is an almost direct quote from a French book. But that’s all I got. I know tamashii had bible verses as one of the secrets, thought it’d be something crazy like that this time around.(edit 2: they’re all from the same book.)
Last edited by Lesserred; 26 Dec, 2021 @ 6:55pm
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Sibel 26 Dec, 2021 @ 3:53pm 
BTW one of those pictures is a secret in stage 2 in the room with all the skull platforms
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wangusgt 26 Dec, 2021 @ 9:43pm 
anyone find out how to get into the key door in stage 2
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Lesserred 26 Dec, 2021 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by wangusgt:
anyone find out how to get into the key door in stage 2
Drop a totem while jumping, and keep jumping.
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SpaceType-EXE 27 Dec, 2021 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by Lesserred:
Originally posted by wangusgt:
anyone find out how to get into the key door in stage 2
Drop a totem while jumping, and keep jumping.
Wow.
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CoopaTroopa 27 Dec, 2021 @ 3:39am 
Originally posted by Lesserred:
Also the last line of the French note, is an almost direct quote from a French book. But that’s all I got. I know tamashii had bible verses as one of the secrets, thought it’d be something crazy like that this time around.(edit 2: they’re all from the same book.)
I just checked that, and while they are from the same series of books, they do seem to be from different ones. More importantly is that they each belong to different chapters that are labelled with roman numerals, so I'm pretty sure you're right with that line of thinking. I'm pretty sure all that's left is to figure out what the symbols on the left mean, which I'm assuming are numbers.

For those that don't want to google french, they'd be:
1 - The Spirits' Book > BOOK FOUR—HOPE AND CONSOLATION > CHAPTER II—FUTURE JOYS AND SORROWS > Heaven, Hell and Purgatory > 1012 [1011]
2 - The Spirits' Book > BOOK THREE—MORAL LAWS > CHAPTER VII—VI. LAW OF SOCIETY > Necessity of Social Life > 767
3 - The Spirits' Book > BOOK THREE—MORAL LAWS > CHAPTER VIII—VII. LAW OF PROGRESS > The March of Progress > 781 > 781 - a
4 - The Spirits' Book > BOOK TWO—THE SPIRIT WORLD > CHAPTER VII—RETURN TO PHYSICAL LIFE > Forgetfulness of the Past > 392
Last edited by CoopaTroopa; 27 Dec, 2021 @ 3:50am
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CoopaTroopa 27 Dec, 2021 @ 6:05am 
Went and spent an hour decoding the document on the desk, was pretty fun. While interesting and lore relevant, it doesn't seem to hold any hints for anything. Here it is, and its translation, for anyone too lazy to do it themselves.

Segundo Carl Jung; os simbolos alquimicos representavam uma formula da busca pela transmutacao da cogsciencia, em outras palavras, ele enxergava a importancia da simbologia alquimica para a "transcendia" da psique. Os elementos eram codigos que representavam o ser humano como um todo; corpo, mente e alma, como mercurio, sal e enxofre. Portanto, a busca pelo ouro transmutado da pedra filosofal nao era, em sua visao, metodos de encontrar ouro real, mas de transformar o ser humano.Nos desenvolvemos e conduzimos experiencias focadas na natureza transgressora e subversiva do microcosmo; absorvendo e organizando os fragmentos abstratos que emergem do subconsciente para o consciente, transformando-as em ensaios acessiveis em midia digital. O conceito primario que moveu o desenvolvimento do projeto e a composicao de tradicoes e interpretacoes filosoficas acerca do conhecimento sobrenatural, com a capacidade que a midia interativa proporciona de experimentar estes elementos em diferentes abordagens, assim buscando elaborar ambientes virtuais que representem o microcosmo e sua gnose oculta; transformando a midia em obra mistico-digital, e nao obstante, obras que representem os dogmas da humanidade sobre a otica de uma metafisica subversiva, estilizada. Isso nao significa necessariamente se tratar de trabalhos de alto teor educativo, mas em primeira instancia focar na manifestacao artisticas como expoente da gnose interior.

According to Carl Jung; alchemical symbols represented a formula for the search for the transmutation of cognition, in other words, he saw the importance of alchemical symbology for the "transcendence" of the psyche. The elements were codes that represented the human being as a whole; body, mind and soul, like mercury, salt and sulfur. Therefore, the search for the transmuted gold of the philosopher's stone was not, in his view, methods of finding real gold, but of transforming the human being. We developed and conducted experiments focused on the transgressive and subversive nature of the microcosm; absorbing and organizing the abstract fragments that emerge from the subconscious to the conscious, transforming them into accessible essays in digital media. The primary concept that moved the development of the project is the composition of traditions and philosophical interpretations about supernatural knowledge, with the ability that the interactive media provides to experience these elements in different approaches, thus seeking to develop virtual environments that represent the microcosm and its hidden gnosis; transforming the media into a mystical-digital work, and nevertheless, works that represent the dogmas of humanity on the optics of a stylized, subversive metaphysics. This does not necessarily mean that they are works with a high educational content, but primarily to focus on artistic manifestations as an exponent of interior gnosis.
Last edited by CoopaTroopa; 27 Dec, 2021 @ 6:06am
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Sibel 27 Dec, 2021 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Lesserred:
Originally posted by wangusgt:
anyone find out how to get into the key door in stage 2
Drop a totem while jumping, and keep jumping.
Tried that and nothing happened
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Father Creamy 27 Dec, 2021 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Sibel:
Originally posted by Lesserred:
Drop a totem while jumping, and keep jumping.
Tried that and nothing happened
How high did you jump?
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CoopaTroopa 27 Dec, 2021 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by Sibel:
Originally posted by Lesserred:
Drop a totem while jumping, and keep jumping.
Tried that and nothing happened
You need to drop the totem while jumping over the rightmost red triangle rune thing, and then spam jump until you leave the screen while holding right. After that you'll drop down to the key door.
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