Smasher and the Will o' the Thiccs

Smasher and the Will o' the Thiccs

Future of the game?
I'm aware that the creator has passed away.
But will there be someone out there that picks up where he left off?
Is anyone making any spin offs of this game?

It just hurts to see the "coming soon" levels and know that they're never coming.
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Diabeetus00 2 Mar, 2024 @ 11:23am 
Unfortunately, the sourcecode isn't accessible without CreatureUnknown.

For the future of the game your best bet would be looking to the workshop to see what others make.

As for the future, this game was pretty good. Wouldn't be too shocked to see if someone did decide to make a spiritual successor. Hell I've even considered it myself, but it feels like it'd be hard to go about it while giving proper respect to the artist who made this.
ArvenMuckWaddle 3 Mar, 2024 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Diabeetus88:
Unfortunately, the sourcecode isn't accessible without CreatureUnknown.

For the future of the game your best bet would be looking to the workshop to see what others make.

As for the future, this game was pretty good. Wouldn't be too shocked to see if someone did decide to make a spiritual successor. Hell I've even considered it myself, but it feels like it'd be hard to go about it while giving proper respect to the artist who made this.
For the future of the game your best bet would be looking to the workshop to see what others make.

As for the future, this game was pretty good. Wouldn't be too shocked to see if someone did decide to make a spiritual successor. Hell I've even considered it myself, but it feels like it'd be hard to go about it while giving proper respect to the artist who made this. [/quote]

I will agree, this was a pretty darn good game. Sadly, I doubt I'll really have the time or the game development experience to make a spiritual successor.

I've looked over the source code, and the encrypted "sys.dat" file. For someone with a bit of Unity experience, some time, and some money to invest into the requisite libraries (jelly sprites, level editor, a few others), it seems relatively doable. As far as art, that may be trickier but I'm sure there's at least some people interested in seeing a successor.

As far as going about it while giving proper respect to the artist, that's a bit trickier to consider. But, I'd think he'd love to see his game become something bigger.
Flint Webber 4 Mar, 2024 @ 7:07am 
Honestly I had a wish to try it, was even going to start learning Godot for it and see if I could make the same kinda game but see what I could do.

But I have a job that kinda keeps me from working on it fully... and also I'm not an artist, just a writer [and person who watches over the forums.]

I'd gladly join/help keep a team going if I could if one wants to form.
Spark the Saint 4 Mar, 2024 @ 3:27pm 
I'm no coder or artist. I wish I could help >-<
I'm totally down for assisting in story creation and testing for bugs tho if we do get something going
ArvenMuckWaddle 5 Mar, 2024 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by Diabeetus88:
Unfortunately, the sourcecode isn't accessible without CreatureUnknown.

For the future of the game your best bet would be looking to the workshop to see what others make.

As for the future, this game was pretty good. Wouldn't be too shocked to see if someone did decide to make a spiritual successor. Hell I've even considered it myself, but it feels like it'd be hard to go about it while giving proper respect to the artist who made this.
Honestly, this is a C# game. The source code is trivial to restore, heck even variable names are preserved... though I'm not sure how much work would be required to get it into a buildable state. Also, could be touchy with copyright and licensing.
ArvenMuckWaddle 5 Mar, 2024 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Flint Webber:
Honestly I had a wish to try it, was even going to start learning Godot for it and see if I could make the same kinda game but see what I could do.

But I have a job that kinda keeps me from working on it fully... and also I'm not an artist, just a writer [and person who watches over the forums.]

I'd gladly join/help keep a team going if I could if one wants to form.
Honestly the biggest amount of art assets appears to be the skins themselves, which I am *sure* the community could help out with, as people have done custom skins before. A lot of stuff outside of the skins and the story screens looks like stock art.

As far as code, Godot is definitely an accessible choice. I think it'd be possible to use the SoftBody 2D physics to take the place of the "Jelly Sprites" library that Smasher uses. Also there does not appear to be a runtime level editor, but someone with more Godot experience might have an idea.
SplitzRod64 10 Mar, 2024 @ 8:24pm 
Originally posted by ArvenMuckWaddle:
Originally posted by Diabeetus88:
Unfortunately, the sourcecode isn't accessible without CreatureUnknown.

For the future of the game your best bet would be looking to the workshop to see what others make.

As for the future, this game was pretty good. Wouldn't be too shocked to see if someone did decide to make a spiritual successor. Hell I've even considered it myself, but it feels like it'd be hard to go about it while giving proper respect to the artist who made this.
Honestly, this is a C# game. The source code is trivial to restore, heck even variable names are preserved... though I'm not sure how much work would be required to get it into a buildable state. Also, could be touchy with copyright and licensing.
If you are serious about it, then you can start with by using Asset Ripper and ILSpy. However you might wanna get flint's permission to do this decompilation. Hell I have a dead decompilation to start with, I can help you get it started if you want. I won't be able to do it full time however. So consider this a jumpstart of the project
Flint Webber 14 Mar, 2024 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by BlazingRod51:
Originally posted by ArvenMuckWaddle:
Honestly, this is a C# game. The source code is trivial to restore, heck even variable names are preserved... though I'm not sure how much work would be required to get it into a buildable state. Also, could be touchy with copyright and licensing.
If you are serious about it, then you can start with by using Asset Ripper and ILSpy. However you might wanna get flint's permission to do this decompilation. Hell I have a dead decompilation to start with, I can help you get it started if you want. I won't be able to do it full time however. So consider this a jumpstart of the project
...Now, I was only ever a tester on the game, forum mod, and also a person in the game [see the dojo level, the Duck, yes.]
I can ask his boyfriend...former boyfriend about this and see what he has to say.

Cons I can think of:
- Private skins. You'd have access to their codes and play with them when they don't want to be known.
- The fact that I think that might not be in the best wishes of the creator? But I'll let Lexal speak on that.
- The true source code is out there, but I'm not sure if Lexal has the pc back yet or not.
Last edited by Flint Webber; 14 Mar, 2024 @ 2:49am
Flint Webber 14 Mar, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
From Lexal [On the discord server he has]:
I really can't stop people from decompiling the game. I have no legal way of stopping them since I don't have any ownership of the game. I just know that Creature was very done with the game after months of trying to force himself to work on it and not getting anywhere. He moved on to other projects and had a plan to come back eventually to add some levels just to get rid of the Coming Soon. I think it would be best if it was just left alone and if someone wants to make a new game that is a spiritual successor, then I'm all for that.

So, here's what I have to say:
IF you do wish to use this game to remake it OR to update the bones of it, Please understand you will have to contact a whole bunch of people to have their skins put into the new game, else try not to put any private skins into your new game if you do end up doing so.
Spark the Saint 14 Mar, 2024 @ 3:33pm 
I mean, I'm totally down for a brand new game that isn't just a copy and paste of this game
Coding and gaming is evolving and improving every day. Make the game from scratch

Maybe whatever is the next Smasher game clone will be bigger, better, and more vast than ever before :P
Diabeetus00 14 Mar, 2024 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Spark the Saint:
I mean, I'm totally down for a brand new game that isn't just a copy and paste of this game
Coding and gaming is evolving and improving every day. Make the game from scratch

Maybe whatever is the next Smasher game clone will be bigger, better, and more vast than ever before :P

I've honestly got a lot of ideas, it'd be really cool to see levels made with berry mode in mind as well
ArvenMuckWaddle 14 Mar, 2024 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by BlazingRod51:
Originally posted by ArvenMuckWaddle:
Honestly, this is a C# game. The source code is trivial to restore, heck even variable names are preserved... though I'm not sure how much work would be required to get it into a buildable state. Also, could be touchy with copyright and licensing.
If you are serious about it, then you can start with by using Asset Ripper and ILSpy. However you might wanna get flint's permission to do this decompilation. Hell I have a dead decompilation to start with, I can help you get it started if you want. I won't be able to do it full time however. So consider this a jumpstart of the project
Yep, was referring to using Asset Ripper... which seemed to have just automatically done the decompilation work, but ILSpy seems helpful as well.
ArvenMuckWaddle 14 Mar, 2024 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by Flint Webber:
From Lexal [On the discord server he has]:
I really can't stop people from decompiling the game. I have no legal way of stopping them since I don't have any ownership of the game. I just know that Creature was very done with the game after months of trying to force himself to work on it and not getting anywhere. He moved on to other projects and had a plan to come back eventually to add some levels just to get rid of the Coming Soon. I think it would be best if it was just left alone and if someone wants to make a new game that is a spiritual successor, then I'm all for that.

So, here's what I have to say:
IF you do wish to use this game to remake it OR to update the bones of it, Please understand you will have to contact a whole bunch of people to have their skins put into the new game, else try not to put any private skins into your new game if you do end up doing so.
Are you referring to all skins, or just the ones locked behind the secret codes? Am definitely not going to share any of the secret codes that I obtained during my research, out of respect for their owners.
Spark the Saint 15 Mar, 2024 @ 12:19pm 
To avoid lawsuits, forget about copying and pasting fursona's in this game into the plausible new game. If they want their fursonas in the new game, they'll say so once the new game gets under development/released
ArvenMuckWaddle 15 Mar, 2024 @ 9:36pm 
Originally posted by Spark the Saint:
To avoid lawsuits, forget about copying and pasting fursona's in this game into the plausible new game. If they want their fursonas in the new game, they'll say so once the new game gets under development/released
But, if anyone does actually take this on... try to at least follow the same template. I'm going to hazard a guess that if someone wants their character in the game they probably don't want to have to worry about redoing it.
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