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(SPOILERS) Do you think that 2nd DLC might be a thing in the future?
I have been thinking about it and I am still confused... did Lea really die at the end of the DLC? I don't think it's been confirmed, was it? There are rumors that Geppetto might have used her ergo to enhance the Nameless Puppet, but it hasn't been really confirmed that it's true, right?

Same with Arlecchino, he seems to be dead and immobile after you defeat him, yet in the base game he is stuck in Arche Abbey and he also looks much different, instead of human skin, he is a white puppet... how did he get there and why does he look much different?
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Pantoni 4 Jul @ 2:51am 
I don't think that there's gonna be another dlc. I don't think it needs it, either.

First of all, there only was a "green" stargazer, which you use to get to dlc. Using the same for another one would be strange (imo).

And second of all, I think the ending (of the dlc) is good enough, leaving some things to your imagination.

About Arlecchino... I guess they didn't have in mind how it would be in the dlc at the begining, so they put a regular puppet in the abbey. But maybe the alchemists skinned him (they fought him too if I remember correctly).

Just my 2 cents on this.

Cheers!
Originally posted by Pantoni:
I don't think that there's gonna be another dlc. I don't think it needs it, either.

First of all, there only was a "green" stargazer, which you use to get to dlc. Using the same for another one would be strange (imo).

And second of all, I think the ending (of the dlc) is good enough, leaving some things to your imagination.

About Arlecchino... I guess they didn't have in mind how it would be in the dlc at the begining, so they put a regular puppet in the abbey. But maybe the alchemists skinned him (they fought him too if I remember correctly).

Just my 2 cents on this.

Cheers!
Well, you don't have to enter another DLC through the same stargazer, they might do it either through some kind of NPC (like Dark Souls 3 Ashes of Ariandel has it) or maybe even some another way like using the tram to get you somewhere else or some kind of newly added or already existing door that might seem innocent, but it's actually another way, you know.

I would really love to know some of these details because they are quite major things they left out and it's just a bit weird to speculate about such important things.
Pantoni 4 Jul @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by Deathwing1306:
Well, you don't have to enter another DLC through the same stargazer, they might do it either through some kind of NPC (like Dark Souls 3 Ashes of Ariandel has it) or maybe even some another way like using the tram to get you somewhere else or some kind of newly added or already existing door that might seem innocent, but it's actually another way, you know.

I would really love to know some of these details because they are quite major things they left out and it's just a bit weird to speculate about such important things.

Fair enough, I didn't consider the tram, or the "innocent door" (I liked that :P). I don't think it needs it, anyway, but of course, your opinion is as valid as mine. I would rather have the developers working on that Dorothy sequel (I'm really really curious about what they will do).

Plus, another dlc could make the last part of the game very easy (after finishing this one, the last part becomes way easier) unless they rebalance it again, and we all know what happens with that (everybody complains. Half because too easy, half because too hard).
Unless they add something like the Skadutree fragments just for the hypothetical dlc. Anyway, it could be a headache for the devs, imo.

About Arlecchino... maybe the "stories that last" (or whatever they're called) add something. I remember hearing somewhere that he got some extra dialog if you beat the dlc before meeting him in the abbey. To be fair, I usually skip his dialog, cause MY GOD, he never shuts his trap!
And despite liking the ending of the dlc a lot, I guess some "closure" to the Arlecchino part of the story wouldn't harm.

Cheers!
Originally posted by Pantoni:
Originally posted by Deathwing1306:
Well, you don't have to enter another DLC through the same stargazer, they might do it either through some kind of NPC (like Dark Souls 3 Ashes of Ariandel has it) or maybe even some another way like using the tram to get you somewhere else or some kind of newly added or already existing door that might seem innocent, but it's actually another way, you know.

I would really love to know some of these details because they are quite major things they left out and it's just a bit weird to speculate about such important things.

Fair enough, I didn't consider the tram, or the "innocent door" (I liked that :P). I don't think it needs it, anyway, but of course, your opinion is as valid as mine. I would rather have the developers working on that Dorothy sequel (I'm really really curious about what they will do).

Plus, another dlc could make the last part of the game very easy (after finishing this one, the last part becomes way easier) unless they rebalance it again, and we all know what happens with that (everybody complains. Half because too easy, half because too hard).
Unless they add something like the Skadutree fragments just for the hypothetical dlc. Anyway, it could be a headache for the devs, imo.

About Arlecchino... maybe the "stories that last" (or whatever they're called) add something. I remember hearing somewhere that he got some extra dialog if you beat the dlc before meeting him in the abbey. To be fair, I usually skip his dialog, cause MY GOD, he never shuts his trap!
And despite liking the ending of the dlc a lot, I guess some "closure" to the Arlecchino part of the story wouldn't harm.

Cheers!
I think that in that dialogue he only says something like that he remembers that outfit and that you (P) are the one who was there with the legendary stalker and I think that is pretty much it, so there isn't really anything special, I might remember it wrong though.

I am also excited for the sequel, but I am just saying, they still have room for another DLC, if it's ever gonna be a thing, nobody knows, but I think they have a reasonable start for it.

By the innocent door I mean something like for example, in the Eventide hotel when you beat the DLC, you will get a key that unlocks Lea's room, but it only unlocks the room in the DLC and not in the base game so they might use it as another gate into the DLC, there might be something behind it, the wall might be broken now for some reason or there might be some secret way to reach new places. When you look at the DLC's room in front of the golden tree (where Paracelsus is selling you the cube things), in the DLC the room has no elevator, but the base game has an elevator there, you use that elevator after you defeat the black rabbit brotherhood so the rooms change a little bit depending if it's present or past. Lea's room might have changed a lot as well in the present time, but we don't know what is in there, we only know what WAS in there in the past. So players might be thinking, "Hmm, interesting, why can't I enter it in the present time, but I can enter it in the past..." and you might not even know it, but it could actually be another DLC gate lol, it also makes sense because Overture ends there so it might as well be a start for a 2nd DLC.
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Pnume 4 Jul @ 7:31am 
I don't think so.

Pretty sure they have been developing the sequel to the game itself (Lie of P 2?) parallel to the production of this DLC and I guess it's what will come next in a year or 2 maybe
arlecchino is a puppet they could insert its ergo into another vessel to resurect him, and it seems thats what happened twice for him, once after lea defeated him and one after p defeated him.
about lea its obvious she's dead , she was sick and was dying anyway, showing her death means nothing at this point. she might have end up like romeo but doesnt really matter, there isnt enough material for another dlc.
Originally posted by Vergilangleos:
arlecchino is a puppet they could insert its ergo into another vessel to resurect him, and it seems thats what happened twice for him, once after lea defeated him and one after p defeated him.
about lea its obvious she's dead , she was sick and was dying anyway, showing her death means nothing at this point. she might have end up like romeo but doesnt really matter, there isnt enough material for another dlc.
That is what I was wondering, Lea could have become another puppet like Romeo because they were all friends so Geppetto might have took her as well without killing her, but we will never know this way.

About Arlecchino, that white puppet you meet at Arche Abbey has similar face to the actual Arlecchino, he has that golden plate on his face. The problem is also that nobody knows how he got there, did Geppetto take him there and if so, why? what was the purpose behind all the Geppetto's decisions after the DLC?
I would not mind more content for the game, but i think they should focus on the sequel now.

Looking at things, it seems the sequel will be a direct one as well.
Originally posted by zmanbuilder:
I would not mind more content for the game, but i think they should focus on the sequel now.

Looking at things, it seems the sequel will be a direct one as well.
I wonder when we will see some info about it, I would guess 2027 might be the year to release first trailer, but who knows. 2 years ago when the game released, they already had the cutscene ready so the sequel was most likely already in development or it has already been planned on what the game is gonna look like, be about, how it will be played, etc. and the only job is just make it real.

The game might be out in 2 years if they already started developing it in 2023.
Boss 4 Jul @ 3:41pm 
No.
At least i hope not, not based on the possibility of Lea being alive.
I don't think we need a clear-cut scene of Geppetto crushing Lea's Ergo crystal or something to let us know he did indeed just kill her.
Romeo's Ergo is solely spared so Geppetto has a Puppet to blame for his Puppet Frenzy, he doesn't need Lea for anything with his plan to revive his son.
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