Well first of all sure thing is the DLC isn't worth buying before you played hours of the game to make sure you actually like it. If you bought the Ouverture Bundle, it doesn't add any advantage anyway, the game in itself is in sale because Summer Sale even outside the bundles and the DLC's price isn't lowered by the bundle.
DLC also is more of what the game is, harder and you can't access it before getting around middle of the game. And it's at the price of the game itself in sale.
The game alone would already make it much more worth

About the game itself, yeah I found the beginning very slow too. The fact the game almost has no music outside of boss battles and key events for ""immersion"" and ""epicness buildup of the game"" didn't help at all.
Had to add music on the side by myself even for many bosses because I didn't fell the music as epic as visuals/gameplay and motivating to keep trying and trying. Which is sad because imo that's the only part of the game which is lacking, outside of few tracks.

However after the first boss (not mini-boss), the story becomes more and more present and the game gets less empty and I'm happy I played it

excellent thank you,also if you havent played it i strongly recommend the first berserker it is a tad bit on the easy side but the greatsword in that game is AMAZING.tbh it is the absolute best cinamatic greatsword ive ever played in a game of this genre.it may lack in a few areas such as customization and overall weapon selection but the weapons you get are very cool.

Don't buy Wo Long, it's mid

I'd say that LoP has the 2nd best combat of any soulslike I've played, the best being, of course, Nioh 2.

So if you haven't already, get Nioh 2 instead, as it is a better game, but LoP's parrying mechanics make it absolutely outstanding once the combat clicks for you.

Originally posted by Derivat949:

Don't buy Wo Long, it's mid

I 100%ed wo long, and i can confirm that it is mid, but it is still fun, hope that a wo long 2 would fix all the issues like nioh 2 did for nioh.

But do not forget we are getting nioh 3 next year.

Rise of the Ronin is also exceptionally good, not quite as good as LoP or Nioh 2 but has outstanding samurai combat. It's only held back by having only human enemies, although there's literally 30 or so fighting styles in the game, so combat never really gets old.

Easily my GOTY 2025 so far. Expedition 33 can suck it.

i just picked up wo long lol it was eating at me ,and i heard a bunch of people and read reviews about rise of the ronin and it was bad but i guess not

45 minutes is a completely fair timeframe to judge a game, unless you went very slow. That said, most Soulslikes have "slow" starts. I haven't played Wolong, but I would be surprised if you get much more excitement from other games in the same genre. Did you fight the first boss?

i fought the carnival boss guy nd then got to the blue butterfly chick and i stopped there for a bit,so yeah very very early.

actually quick question to those who played wo long...why is my fps literally over 5 million..i couldnt stop laughing and my computer was trying to unalive itself

Originally posted by Nanobreaker1137:

i just picked up wo long lol it was eating at me ,and i heard a bunch of people and read reviews about rise of the ronin and it was bad but i guess not

It had a really, really bad launch with horrible performance issues but runs a lot better today.

It is also, as previously stated, GOTY 2025, although you may bounce off it if you dislike open-world exploration in an Elden Ring-like manner.

Originally posted by Nanobreaker1137:

i fought the carnival boss guy nd then got to the blue butterfly chick and i stopped there for a bit,so yeah very very early.

Second boss tends to be where people run into trouble, then, uhh... every boss after that. (Edit: I heard Specter summons were letting people breeze through, though.)

I would say, though, if you beat the first boss and didn't like the game, I'd be wary of the 2 hour refund limit. I'm a big fan of Lies of P and it's narrative, but gameplay is gameplay.

I really like souls games and I think if you don’t like the game after around the second or third area the game is absolutely not for since that’s when the game has to make an impression on you, I really love lies of p since it reminds me of bloodborne and is probably one of the more polished souls games if you compare it to fromsoft games. I also have a tip about the refunding system in steam, as long as you have a good reason and haven’t played for around more than 3-4 hours you can still get the refund, just write exactly why you still want to refund it, was able to refund a game after 6 hours this way so if you go over the time by 30 minutes it should still be fine so I would still recommend trying the game a little bit more if you haven’t already.

I would also like to add that the game is sadly very linear and that can be pretty boring at times and thus can be pretty quick to complete and the difficulty isn’t really bad once you get used to it and actually level up and find a fun weapon.

Originally posted by What is life?:

I really like souls games and I think if you don’t like the game after around the second or third area the game is absolutely not for since that’s when the game has to make an impression on you, I really love lies of p since it reminds me of bloodborne and is probably one of the more polished souls games if you compare it to fromsoft games. I also have a tip about the refunding system in steam, as long as you have a good reason and haven’t played for around more than 3-4 hours you can still get the refund, just write exactly why you still want to refund it, was able to refund a game after 6 hours this way so if you go over the time by 30 minutes it should still be fine so I would still recommend trying the game a little bit more if you haven’t already.

I would also like to add that the game is sadly very linear and that can be pretty boring at times and thus can be pretty quick to complete and the difficulty isn’t really bad once you get used to it and actually level up and find a fun weapon.

I'd say for it being their first souls like, they did an amazing job, combat wise i prefer this over Froms games mostly due to From depending on i-frames, while this game you have far less so you tend to actually dodge the attack. This game also has far less instant death bs compared to From.

Personally, i really like the level design from DS1, with all the areas kinda looping together, but i also enjoy the linear aspect of LoP. Currently i have high expectations for LoP2.

as someone who loves souls games this is probably the most fun non fromsoft game Ive played.

45 minutes is literally the intro. thats like dying to the asylum demon and saying "this is boring"

give it time. its a very fun game and opens up in a lot of ways if you give it some patience