you can clear it as soon as it's available; it's stingy with Ergo but gives you heaps of upgrade materials and all of the DLC equipment is good at worst. That being said, it's scaled similarly to the end of the game and there's exactly one missable thing if you do it late: the red memory on the beach changes once the DLC is complete.

As such, I think you're best off doing it right after the base game and walking past the red memory.

Originally posted by Plumber:

you can clear it as soon as it's available; it's stingy with Ergo but gives you heaps of upgrade materials and all of the DLC equipment is good at worst. That being said, it's scaled similarly to the end of the game and there's exactly one missable thing if you do it late: the red memory on the beach changes once the DLC is complete.

As such, I think you're best off doing it right after the base game and walking past the red memory.

Ah damn, I already touched the red memory on the beach. Thanks for the heads up though. Hopefully you don't get anything extra for it and it's just visual. Sounds like I'll probably finish the base game for max quartz and the final boss weapon and then go do it. From here on out I'll probably do it as soon as it's available seeing as what you told me about the red memory, leads me to believe that the developers intent is to go do the DLC as soon as it's available. I'll probably try NG+ for the platinum, but I got pretty bored with the game when I first tried to do NG+ at launch so we will see. I appreciate the info.

Originally posted by Plumber:

there's exactly one missable thing if you do it late:

Also a very negligible line from a certain NPC locked up at the bottom of Arche Abbey if you're wearing the Legendary Stalker's mask.


In NG, I'd say start it after the final boss. In NG+, try it as soon as you unlock it.

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire:

Also a very negligible line from a certain NPC locked up at the bottom of Arche Abbey if you're wearing the Legendary Stalker's mask.

You can go back to that NPC at any time even postgame as far as I know; it's not really 'missable' in the sense that you don't get locked out of it.

Originally posted by X YdoC:

Hopefully you don't get anything extra for it and it's just visual. Sounds like I'll probably finish the base game for max quartz and the final boss weapon and then go do it. From here on out I'll probably do it as soon as it's available seeing as what you told me about the red memory, leads me to believe that the developers intent is to go do the DLC as soon as it's available. I'll probably try NG+ for the platinum, but I got pretty bored with the game when I first tried to do NG+ at launch so we will see. I appreciate the info.

It's altered dialogue.

The timing of the DLC is works out pretty conveniently for story/gameplay pacing; it's unlocked right as you get access to the chapter that piles up heaps of enhancement materials...

If it's about 100% completion, NG+ is strictly required due to the existence of the gold records anyway, even if the player savescums for alternate endings.

Originally posted by Plumber:

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire:

Also a very negligible line from a certain NPC locked up at the bottom of Arche Abbey if you're wearing the Legendary Stalker's mask.

You can go back to that NPC at any time even postgame as far as I know; it's not really 'missable' in the sense that you don't get locked out of it.

You can kill him after completing Venigni's questline. I can't remember if he goes completely inactive at that point as well or not.

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire:

You can kill him after completing Venigni's questline. I can't remember if he goes completely inactive at that point as well or not.

He stays dead permanently, and it's not required for Venigni's questline either. It's a morbid choice the player can make that, in line with the themes of the story in question, is set up to feel hollow no matter what you choose.

Originally posted by Plumber:

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire:

You can kill him after completing Venigni's questline. I can't remember if he goes completely inactive at that point as well or not.

He stays dead permanently, and it's not required for Venigni's questline either. It's a morbid choice the player can make that, in line with the themes of the story in question, is set up to feel hollow no matter what you choose.

Right. What I mean is that I'm not sure if he goes comatose before you kill him. Also, hey, free Ergo chunk

Nope, he sticks around indefinitely.