Of Life and Land

Of Life and Land

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Grikshna 20 Dec, 2023 @ 7:57am
Random comments after trying the demo
1) the name of the game. The old "Circle of Kerzoven" is way more memorable than this very bland "of life and land", I don't know what prompted the change, but it's not a good idea.
2) the game is alpha so I'm ok with dealing with crashes.... but I didn't have any, which is a good sign (linux version).
3) the multiple professions/colonist is a good idea, but the interface needs a lot more work, right now it's hard to have a global view of what's going on, which buildings are staffed etc. Also, no clear explanation of how profession prioritization works. It's time sharing? Do the 2nd only when nothing to do for the 1st?
4) am I missing something or there are no storage buildings like warehouses?
5) the building interface with multiple tabs is problematic, because it's a lot of clicking to get a full picture of what's going on.
6) colonists seem to have a lot of parameters (needs, genetic, etc.), but it's unclear how they work or why would I care. Overall, adding a lot of minor details is not necessarily a good thing, Banished was bare-bones, but it's still remembered today because of how well those few elements fit together.
7) game speed is too slow, I went up to 10x and I don't think I ever slowed below that mark.

Anyway, this is staying on my wishilist to see how it evolves, as some of the mechanics are interesting.
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Kersoph  [developer] 4 Jan, 2024 @ 8:31am 
Thanks for the feedback!
1) Yeah the name change is mixed and it was a long process if we want to change it or not. In the end it was a difficult decision and we hope it was the right choice.
2) Great to hear! Especially that it runs well on Linux.
3) We are currently improving the UI, reorganizing it and add overviews. I hope this helps. Yes exactly, the first one is done until there is no more work left and then starts doing the second thing.
4) Yes there is no central faction storage. Things are stored in the buildings where the goods are produced or needed. Merchants and market places help with the distribution and 'storage' as well. It is quite different than most city builders and more closely simulated to reality.
5) We've reduced it a bit in the meantime and tried to put all important things in the first one. Hope it is a bit better now.
6) We are currently heavily improving the UI to make it more clear what they do. It is intended that they do not have a heavy influence in the beginning but they get more and more important while you progress. We use psychological and physiological models to simulate humans and animals, which makes it more complex, but as well allows interesting effects and loops players can observe and test out things.
7) We saw some liked to play it quite slow and some ultra fast. We implemented a speed range from 1 to 300 to choose from. Hope that is ok
Great to hear, thanks! :)
Last edited by Kersoph; 4 Jan, 2024 @ 8:33am
Buntkreuz 1 Apr, 2024 @ 6:15am 
The name change might be a stilistic step backwards, but it is an economical step forwards.
STeams Search Function is incredibly bad.
If you enter a term that is only missing one letter or has something wrong, you wont get any search results.
Its not like google, where you get a good selection of "did you mean X?"

Cities of Kerzoven is nothing you remember well.
You might have seen the game, wishlisted it, but now 5 months have passed and you remember "there was that city builder about influencing nature" but you cant remember how it was named.
Something with "Cities".
Maybe you even remember something about "Kingshaven".
You wont get any good results and the game will vanish into the void, burried under the 10k new games that get released during a year (and that number is no exageration).

Life and land might be generic and thus also yield more generative results, but its less prone to errors like Kerrzoven, Kerzowen, Kurzothen? How was it spelled?


I had a lot of moments on steam where i knew the exact name of a game and couldnt find it.
For many reasons. But often it was because i had just one letter missing or added.
Especially tough are sequels, because somehow developers use II or ll (thats i and L) instead of just...."2".
And if you go searching, it wont hit.

Steams Search is absolute garbage and developers have to take steps to deal with that.
It might not be an original name (which comes with its own problems regarding the search function),
but its at least less prone to errors like that cryptic name "Kerzoven", which, while writing this comment, i had to check back 4 times now, whether i wrote it correctly.

Could be a better name than "Of Life and Land", for sure. But the old one was garbage (no offense) for an outsider.
Last edited by Buntkreuz; 1 Apr, 2024 @ 6:17am
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