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Sudden mystery drain on treausry
I was playing as the Kingdom of Brittany. I had managed to expand into Wales, SW Ireland, Normandy and Anjou. I had a queen who reigned for a long time who created a university and oversaw much of said expansion. When she died my treasury was flush and I had no sizable expenses. The inheriting son had spent considerable time in Bulgaria and had converted to Orthodox Christianity and was quite insane. This in of itself was no difficulty except suddenly there was a mystery expense on the treasury of 16 per month that I could not explain or dispense with. I had no troops raised and without an effective ledger in this game, no way to determine what was causing this drain on my treasury.
Said son died shortly thereafter and his Roman Catholic heir took over, but the expense remained, meaning neither his father's religion nor insanity was the source of the mystery fee. The new king was no financial wizard so this expense was crippling. Lacking any way to deal with it, I called it quits.
Is there any way to determine what is incurring expenses in this game? There is something called a 'ledger' but little of it deals with money.
Last edited by Delta-Kilo; 10 Aug @ 8:28am
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Maybe an inherited retinue.
In your character window top right hover mouse over troop numbers to see if there is one.
Easier option is this, you can see armies in the outliner (the box on the right).Selecting it will move the map view there. IF there is no armies section in the outliner, then open the configuration (botton at top) to select armies to be displayed there.

There is a ledger,but its indeed not for troops.
Expenses are in the according table that displays when you select your primary shield.
Hovering mouse over the lines shows a tooltip with more details.
Last edited by Varainger; 10 Aug @ 9:51am
bri 10 Aug @ 10:20am 
I would suspect it was a significant drop in income that was the issue. All those bishops that liked your long reigning queen would feel very different about an insane orthodox new ruler so all that cash would go to the pope instead of your coffers. While the following heir wouldn't have the penalty for not being catholic the short reign penalty would still apply along with other issues such as being over demense limit, possibly weaker stats, etc..
Lucasia 10 Aug @ 12:11pm 
I dont know how to determine the source but some likely causes are:
- Raised fleets
- Mercenaries (inluding fleets)
- Being over demesme limit
- Expenses for building Great Works or features in them
- Having to many courtiers (if the game rule limiting court size is enabled)
- Your steward is stealing from you
- Sudden expenses that won't repeat every month
If you are subject to an emperor it could also be the cost for maintaing levies that the emperor raised in your lands.
Delta-Kilo 10 Aug @ 12:25pm 
Solved: The Orthodox ruler apparently raised up a mercenary fleet while campaigning in Bulgaria. It never showed up on any troop ledger or my official order of battle and was never dismissed when I tried raising and dismissing troops.
My thanks for those who told me where the game hides finance accounts. I would never have thought to look there in a million years. It showed a expense for mercenaries, only clue to look for them. Alas, campaign already ruined by then.
Last edited by Delta-Kilo; 10 Aug @ 12:29pm
galadon3 11 Aug @ 3:51am 
Usually a campaign isnt ruined by financial difficulties, if you went on in debt for a long time your realm might be in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ state (especially having smugglers and robbers all over your demesne) but thats nothing a realm can't recover from.
Originally posted by Delta-Kilo:
Solved: The Orthodox ruler apparently raised up a mercenary fleet while campaigning in Bulgaria. It never showed up on any troop ledger or my official order of battle and was never dismissed when I tried raising and dismissing troops.
My thanks for those who told me where the game hides finance accounts. I would never have thought to look there in a million years. It showed a expense for mercenaries, only clue to look for them. Alas, campaign already ruined by then.

Nice.
My pleasure. Had experienced the same issue here and there.

Mercenary fleets are indeed tricky, as they don't show up in the troop count of the character window, as far as i recall, but they should also show up in the outliner when you activate fleets to get displayed.

Another alterntive can be to scroll through the mercenary tab, but i'm not sure if they'd show up there, if said mercenary band/fleet isn't supposed to be available in your current region.
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