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Casper van Est  [developer] 17 May, 2016 @ 4:43am
[OFFICIAL] [POLL] Which maps to add/remove from the Curated Workshop list?
Last update: Nov. 3rd 2016
Current voting is closed! Please suggest maps to be removed/added in the comments

Hi all!

I'd like the community to be more involved in picking the curated workshop maps list (also known as the RWS maps). A neat way to do this might simply be by organising a poll every month. So here we go!

The rules are: you can vote on which maps you'd like to see removed from the list, and which map you'd like to see added to the list. I'll give three options for you to vote on, to keep it simple. Use the polls to cast your vote. Use the comments section to suggest other maps to be added or removed.

Which one of these three maps should be removed from the Curated Workshop list?
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=783072374
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=565876976
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650404742
Update: voting has closed! Park will be removed!

Which one of these three maps should be added to the Curated Workshop list?
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=767603567
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=705501624
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=683791131
Update: voting has closed! Void is the winner!

Voting deadline is November 1st!!
On Nov. 1st, I'll tally the votes and take that as input on my decision which maps to add/remove. Then I'll select three new maps to be removed/added a month later.

Additional rules
  • You can also vote for 'none of the above' if you don't agree with the selection. Please suggest other maps to add/remove in the comments, or vote on 'Other..' and type the mapname.
  • If 'none of the above' is the winner, I'll most likely won't add/remove any of the three.
  • If there is a close tie between multiple options, I'll either select both, one or none. Depending on my personal preference.
  • Ultimately, these votes are taken as a suggestion - I'll make the final decision on which maps to add or remove myself.

* For the sake of keeping a clean overview, I'll be deleting most comments after reading them, except the ones that suggest maps to be removed/added in the next round or comments that provide solid arguments for certain options. When I do delete your comment, remember that it's not a punishment or anything like that, so feel free to comment whatever you want - it's just to keep an overview for myself.
Last edited by Casper van Est; 3 Nov, 2016 @ 5:57am
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Casper van Est  [developer] 17 May, 2016 @ 5:17am 
FYI: Metalworks was added to the curated list earlier today.
Last edited by Casper van Est; 17 May, 2016 @ 6:15am
Jimmy 17 May, 2016 @ 6:12am 
Put JM-Anime maps to be removed from the Curated WS list
Casper van Est  [developer] 17 May, 2016 @ 7:43am 
Note that you can also vote for 'none of the above'. If the majority votes for that option, I won't add/remove any of these three and select three different ones for the next round.
Last edited by Casper van Est; 17 May, 2016 @ 7:44am
Sunshine 17 May, 2016 @ 8:13am 
add winds peak,dash the night!
76561198105328901 17 May, 2016 @ 8:44am 
add club V and rush ring too

Originally posted by Sunshine:
add winds peak,dash the night!
Winds peak isnt in rws anymore
hairy peak 17 May, 2016 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by a_guy_playing:
Why are people voting against laboratory? It's one of my favorites
i dunno why laboratory is even there. speedcity and city runners deserve that place in the poll
zethy 17 May, 2016 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by SoNuclear:
Pitfalls left climb section seems very similar to silo and the climb area is one of the main reasons i hate silo, the times on it are so much faster even if you are having a worse run(tested with a ghost on a run that was about 5-10s slower than what i had at the moment), apart from that the maps seems sorta simple and easy to grasp, didnt like that

Hey thanks for the feedback, I've been looking for ways to improve the left section for a while and a silo sort of style section linking the 2 wall climbs was the most natural way I could think of doing it. I don't really understand what you mean by the times on it are so much faster? Anyway if you have any better way of making the wall climb section throw it at me. Also I did try to make pitfall easy to grasp but playing it quickly is challenging at points both to pull off and even I'm not sure I know the fastest strats in all areas. Anyway if you have anyway ways to improve the map I would appreciate it :3
Last edited by zethy; 17 May, 2016 @ 12:30pm
zethy 17 May, 2016 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by SoNuclear:
Originally posted by hydrogen sulphate:

Hey thanks for the feedback, I've been looking for ways to improve the left section for a while and a silo sort of style section linking the 2 wall climbs was the most natural way I could think of doing it. I don't really understand what you mean by the times on it are so much faster? Anyway if you have any better way of making the wall climb section throw it at me. Also I did try to make pitfall easy to grasp but playing it quickly is challenging at points both to pull off and even I'm not sure I know the fastest strats in all areas. Anyway if you have anyway ways to improve the map I would appreciate it :3
What i meant was, from the short playtests that i did, taking the leftmost climb(switch activated) produced for me a much better time in the climb section than taking the swing route, not to mention, the boost at the top just putting a cherry on top of it, giving you a massive lead coming out of the climb section... Might of course be just me, i did not playtest for long...

I don't really understand though, the silo swing climb area is meant to be faster than the reverse lib swing as a reward for swinging back into the boost to hit the lever. unless you mean that it would be an unfair advantage in which case all players go the same way so its not like you'll have one player doing the silo climb while someone else does the slower reverse lib swing. I thought it was a nice way to spice up the left side from what it used to be. About the boost, I understand that its fast but it is slower in all cases to go to it if your in the lead due to the way I made the gates in the silo section work although I may make it slower if you go the lower route just after the start to force the more risky and balanced top route. Hope that clears it up, if not just play w/ a friend and I think you'll see what I mean.

EDIT: Sorry if I came off as aggressive I don't mean to be but I'm not the best at explaining stuff :>
Last edited by zethy; 17 May, 2016 @ 2:37pm
Casper van Est  [developer] 18 May, 2016 @ 3:19am 
Next round will probably see 'snowed in' as part of the selection:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=685789345
sanik 18 May, 2016 @ 10:49am 
pls remove Park
Casper van Est  [developer] 19 May, 2016 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by Verukingtrix:
Can you not add + remove maps this fast?

I'll keep a month in between adding/removing maps. So the deadline is now June 1st; the next one will be July 1st.
Last edited by Casper van Est; 19 May, 2016 @ 5:01am
Casper van Est  [developer] 19 May, 2016 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by Verukingtrix:
In my personal opinion I prefer to have a list so large (e.g. 50) to the point where I won't be expecting these 10-12 maps that I have in my mind clearly.

Thanks! I'll definitely keep that in mind, it might be a good idea to slowly expand the list over time.
Casper van Est  [developer] 2 Jun, 2016 @ 3:43am 
Ok the deadline has passed, and the winner is.. Pitfall!

The poll for which map should be removed is more or less tied, so I won't be removing any of these maps.

In response to some of the feedback in this thread: I'll see if I can set something up that allows people to express their opinion on the RWS maps in-game, instead of via strawpoll. Hopefully we'll get more votes that way - and a more clear overview of the general SpeedRunners community. Or, since we recently added the option to pick specific curated workshop maps in Ranked, I might keep a better eye on the stats of which maps get picked most often.

In the meantime, I'll set up some new polls for next month. One of my suggestions to be added will be the map I mentioned earlier, Snowed In. If you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

As for the maps to be removed, I've seen complaints about Club V and Rush Ring, so I'll add those in the mix. Any other maps that should be considered?

PS: I deleted a lot of comments in this thread. Not because I don't appreciate the discussion, but simply to keep things organised.
Last edited by Casper van Est; 2 Jun, 2016 @ 3:53am
Casper van Est  [developer] 2 Jun, 2016 @ 7:04am 
NB: there seem to have been some "false" votes near the end of the polling deadline. I've been keeping an eye on the poll almost every day and Pitfall has clearly been the favourite the entire time, so I don't think these votes had any impact.

Strawpoll might not be the best way to gauge the community's preference. As I said in my previous post, I'll see if I can find a better method. Until then, it's the way it's going to be. Better that than having no influence on the curation at all, right?

The main thing to take away from the poll is that clearly there was more excitement for Pitfall to be added than for the two other maps. So, that's the map I chose.

These polls are meant to be a way for me to gauge the community's preference in which maps to add (and remove). The results are used as input for the decision which maps to curate. That decision, though, is ultimately completely up to me.

Anyway, instead of lingering too long on the "false votes" issue, I'd rather advise you to take this opportunity to be a part of the curation process and focus on which maps you guys would like to see added/removed next (if any).

So far I've heard suggestion for Club V and Rush Ring to be removed, as well as a few others.

I haven't heard any suggestions for which maps would be a good addition?
Last edited by Casper van Est; 2 Jun, 2016 @ 8:03am
Casper van Est  [developer] 2 Jun, 2016 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by Bubble Tea:
Wasn't the 'none of the above' option leading, till the sudden surge of votes?

I don't think it was, no.
But look, if you guys would rather have a different map than Pitfall in the curated list, please be so kind and suggest one.
Last edited by Casper van Est; 2 Jun, 2016 @ 8:44am
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