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Why is BlackCipher being used?
Can anyone rationalize why BlackCipher is being used in this game, which is PvE?
From what I have researched, there have been concerns in the past that they are collecting excessive information about users.
Last edited by kusogame; 6 Jul @ 11:45pm
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Spoiler: Every time you don't pay for a product, you pay with your data.
Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:
Spoiler: Every time you don't pay for a product, you pay with your data.
so gooners buying their overpriced skins is not enough? :lloyd_scared:
Last edited by ChickenBalls; 7 Jul @ 12:09am
all this " they collect your data" as if its private to begin with like dude you make an account on steam , gmail, your phone, literally every subscription base product takes your data , and once it got leaked/hacked it will be open to public.
everyone acting like they some kind of celebrity that if their data is seen they will have stalker and all kinds of stuff
while in reality they just use your data to give you ads that fit you judging by your data.
Originally posted by Jundah 101:
all this " they collect your data" as if its private to begin with like dude you make an account on steam , gmail, your phone, literally every subscription base product takes your data , and once it got leaked/hacked it will be open to public.
everyone acting like they some kind of celebrity that if their data is seen they will have stalker and all kinds of stuff
while in reality they just use your data to give you ads that fit you judging by your data.
lol you forgot to mention Windows 11 since that one also requires an online account in order to log in to your local computer, not to mention that it probably also gives access to microsoft AI to your computer files but for some reason people are also OK with that.
Originally posted by penril_knight:
Originally posted by Jundah 101:
all this " they collect your data" as if its private to begin with like dude you make an account on steam , gmail, your phone, literally every subscription base product takes your data , and once it got leaked/hacked it will be open to public.
everyone acting like they some kind of celebrity that if their data is seen they will have stalker and all kinds of stuff
while in reality they just use your data to give you ads that fit you judging by your data.
lol you forgot to mention Windows 11 since that one also requires an online account in order to log in to your local computer, not to mention that it probably also gives access to microsoft AI to your computer files but for some reason people are also OK with that.


It is commendable that there are few cheaters in the game, but having to install two kernel-level anti-cheat systems in a PvE game is not very common.
NEXON has had issues with information leakage in the past. Additionally, they have been exposed by South Korean authorities for manipulating probabilities.
Although there was no malice in the information leakage, the manipulation of probabilities was malicious.
Bryan 7 Jul @ 9:11pm 
in addition to prevent people from duping Caliber, using third party programs, and using modified files it's used to prevent players from hacking players as well when interacting with each other.
Last edited by Bryan; 7 Jul @ 9:22pm
Ex-D204 7 Jul @ 9:24pm 
They use it to steal yo data and feed it to ai machine god, or maybe to stop someone from duping caliber, but yea blackcipher is bad, its literally scan our browser aswell even you didn't start the game.

Bonus: sometimes it doesn't play well with other kernel level ac, like A.C.E or punk buster because they compete to each other to spy our pc.
Bryan 7 Jul @ 9:31pm 
Originally posted by Ex-D204:
They use it to steal yo data and feed it to ai machine god, or maybe to stop someone from duping caliber, but yea blackcipher is bad, its literally scan our browser aswell even you didn't start the game.

Bonus: sometimes it doesn't play well with other kernel level ac, like A.C.E or punk buster because they compete to each other to spy our pc.

People use web browsers to piggy back hacking programs. Like ones to leak your information if you interact with someone in game who has one open.

WOW had a issue with this, almost all PVE co-op games and PVP games have a BlackCipher type program now because of how common and easy it is to do.
Last edited by Bryan; 7 Jul @ 9:34pm
Well, there will be trade options in Season 3 this year. It might be related to that, but who knows what the devs are doing. There’s a lot of information about suspicious activity from the devs, so...
Originally posted by Jackalka:
Well, there will be trade options in Season 3 this year. It might be related to that, but who knows what the devs are doing. There’s a lot of information about suspicious activity from the devs, so...
really? Where/when did they state this? I though they said a long time ago that they had no plans for player trading
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