Originally posted by Antracide:

Hello! i returned to this game after 7 months and i tried the serena build with the last dagger but for me it doesnt do the damage it shows on video. i have only the weapon to increase the core stats but everything else it is the same. With 1-2 clips he kills a collossus but for me doesnt work. Any tips? already invested a lot in this one.

Can you share the video / guide the build is based on?
Its hard for anyone to tell you anything if we do not know what you are talking about

Originally posted by Grimzy:

Originally posted by Antracide:

Hello! i returned to this game after 7 months and i tried the serena build with the last dagger but for me it doesnt do the damage it shows on video. i have only the weapon to increase the core stats but everything else it is the same. With 1-2 clips he kills a collossus but for me doesnt work. Any tips? already invested a lot in this one.

Can you share the video / guide the build is based on?
Its hard for anyone to tell you anything if we do not know what you are talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDtkeUMX2Aw&t=851s

Your build and the one in the video are different.

Did you copy the exact same build? with the same modules and, more importantly, the same stats for the cores because the core stats make a huge difference for that weapon.

You also need to have last dagger unique ability fully upgraded since its firearm crit rate comes from there.

If you have everything same as him then maybe you not use your 4th ability correctly?

Originally posted by penril_knight:

Did you copy the exact same build? with the same modules and, more importantly, the same stats for the cores because the core stats make a huge difference for that weapon.

You also need to have last dagger unique ability fully upgraded since its firearm crit rate comes from there.

i dont have critical hit damage for core and only 3/4 unique

Originally posted by Antracide:

Originally posted by penril_knight:

Did you copy the exact same build? with the same modules and, more importantly, the same stats for the cores because the core stats make a huge difference for that weapon.

You also need to have last dagger unique ability fully upgraded since its firearm crit rate comes from there.

i dont have critical hit damage for core and only 3/4 unique

also the stats for cores are 50% of what he has

Originally posted by Antracide:

Originally posted by Antracide:

i dont have critical hit damage for core and only 3/4 unique

also the stats for cores are 50% of what he has

That will do it, plus, do you have your arche leveled up?

Originally posted by Moonfire:

If you have everything same as him then maybe you not use your 4th ability correctly?

you just sore in the sky and press the ultimate and shoot at him? what else is there?

Clearly your stats are not the same.

Also, when using Last Dagger with Fiering Fiesta on Serena it's extremely important to remember that your air dash will trigger that reload buff even if your magazine is full.

Meaning you absolutely do not want to use the dash before you can start shooting the boss with the Last Dagger or all of your burst damage will go out of the window.

Lastly that whole build is optimized into the Last Dagger burst window. I much prefer to replace one fire rate core with magazine capacity core. Makes the weapon usable in general combat or if you mess up like I mentioned above.

Originally posted by Midnight:

Clearly your stats are not the same.

Also, when using Last Dagger with Fiering Fiesta on Serena it's extremely important to remember that your air dash will trigger that reload buff even if your magazine is full.

Meaning you absolutely do not want to use the dash before you can start shooting the boss with the Last Dagger or all of your burst damage will go out of the window.

Lastly that whole build is optimized into the Last Dagger burst window. I much prefer to replace one fire rate core with magazine capacity core. Makes the weapon usable in general combat or if you mess up like I mentioned above.

to get the same cores as he has takes more time but i dont know if from 30% to 80% firearm attack makes for the lacking damage. I mean he does with 1 clip damage more than i do with 5 clips

Originally posted by Antracide:

Originally posted by Midnight:

Clearly your stats are not the same.

Also, when using Last Dagger with Fiering Fiesta on Serena it's extremely important to remember that your air dash will trigger that reload buff even if your magazine is full.

Meaning you absolutely do not want to use the dash before you can start shooting the boss with the Last Dagger or all of your burst damage will go out of the window.

Lastly that whole build is optimized into the Last Dagger burst window. I much prefer to replace one fire rate core with magazine capacity core. Makes the weapon usable in general combat or if you mess up like I mentioned above.

to get the same cores as he has takes more time but i dont know if from 30% to 80% firearm attack makes for the lacking damage. I mean he does with 1 clip damage more than i do with 5 clips

The difference between lvl 10 cores and lower is gigantic. Not only does he have lvl 10 cores, almost all are also perfect rolls. I cannot emphasize enough how much of a difference that is.

Secondly if you didn't mess up the Firing Fiesta buff. Meaning you have 3s of unlimited fire after the first reload. And you still can't down boss like Gluttony in that time then those stats are absolutely what is holding you back.

I have less optimized build that he has. But it's still Last Dagger HP stacking build and I can still blow up Gluttony maybe couple seconds slower.

Originally posted by Midnight:

Originally posted by Antracide:

to get the same cores as he has takes more time but i dont know if from 30% to 80% firearm attack makes for the lacking damage. I mean he does with 1 clip damage more than i do with 5 clips

The difference between lvl 10 cores and lower is gigantic. Not only does he have lvl 10 cores, almost all are also perfect rolls. I cannot emphasize enough how much of a difference that is.

Secondly if you didn't mess up the Firing Fiesta buff. Meaning you have 3s of unlimited fire after the first reload. And you still can't down boss like Gluttony in that time then those stats are absolutely what is holding you back.

I have less optimized build that he has. But it's still Last Dagger HP stacking build and I can still blow up Gluttony maybe couple seconds slower.

well, i need more time to farm those cores. Also i used the sore skill and firing fiesta was on right from the start and when i attack the boss its over. I will try one time without using it before.

Originally posted by Antracide:

Originally posted by Midnight:

The difference between lvl 10 cores and lower is gigantic. Not only does he have lvl 10 cores, almost all are also perfect rolls. I cannot emphasize enough how much of a difference that is.

Secondly if you didn't mess up the Firing Fiesta buff. Meaning you have 3s of unlimited fire after the first reload. And you still can't down boss like Gluttony in that time then those stats are absolutely what is holding you back.

I have less optimized build that he has. But it's still Last Dagger HP stacking build and I can still blow up Gluttony maybe couple seconds slower.

well, i need more time to farm those cores. Also i used the sore skill and firing fiesta was on right from the start and when i attack the boss its over. I will try one time without using it before.

Yes, the dash always counts as a reload. Notice how in the build video he doesn't use it when approaching the boss.

Pretty much all of your burst damage is in that 3s window. Miss it and you might as well restart the fight.

Originally posted by Midnight:

The difference between lvl 10 cores and lower is gigantic. Not only does he have lvl 10 cores, almost all are also perfect rolls. I cannot emphasize enough how much of a difference that is.

To expand on this, when you see "fire rate", it really means "cooldown reduction between shots". Every point of "fire rate" does more than the last.

Rounds per minute is NOT calculated like this:
FinalRoundsPerMinute = BaseRoundsPerMinute * (1 + FireRateBonus)

It's really this, to a max 90% fire rate bonus:
FinalRoundsPerMinute = BaseRoundsPerMinute / (1 - FireRateBonus)

i.e. the 25% fire rate mod by itself results in 133% of the base rounds per minute.

Assuming two 10% fire rate cores and the 25% mod, you'll have 182% of the base RPM; upgrading both cores to 20% would get you 286% of the base RPM.