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Hello. Im doing and ines void erosion build with secret garden. Do you need to upgrade the weapon besides the unique ability? or you just have to be equipped with it for the unique to active.
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SG is just a stat stick mostly. I upgraded mine because I enjoy upgrading most of the weapons, but for Ines, you don't have to. Just use 2 sprint/1 grapple or 2 grapple/1 sprint core.
Antracide 27 Jul @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by vectorViridian:
SG is just a stat stick mostly. I upgraded mine because I enjoy upgrading most of the weapons, but for Ines, you don't have to. Just use 2 sprint/1 grapple or 2 grapple/1 sprint core.
i tried the build against lvl 9 void erosion and i cant do it. The last boss kills me in 2 secs and i dont do damage to him. The build is complete on the descendant, only the weapon is not upgraded (unique ability)
Grimzy 27 Jul @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Antracide:
Originally posted by vectorViridian:
SG is just a stat stick mostly. I upgraded mine because I enjoy upgrading most of the weapons, but for Ines, you don't have to. Just use 2 sprint/1 grapple or 2 grapple/1 sprint core.
i tried the build against lvl 9 void erosion and i cant do it. The last boss kills me in 2 secs and i dont do damage to him. The build is complete on the descendant, only the weapon is not upgraded (unique ability)


Have you tried using an actual DPS weapon on the boss instead of relying on Iness skills because a lot of times they arent really that great against single bosses.
Antracide 27 Jul @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Grimzy:
Originally posted by Antracide:
i tried the build against lvl 9 void erosion and i cant do it. The last boss kills me in 2 secs and i dont do damage to him. The build is complete on the descendant, only the weapon is not upgraded (unique ability)


Have you tried using an actual DPS weapon on the boss instead of relying on Iness skills because a lot of times they arent really that great against single bosses.
Actually no :)) i will try it now.
Originally posted by Grimzy:

Have you tried using an actual DPS weapon on the boss instead of relying on Iness skills because a lot of times they arent really that great against single bosses.

usually takes 3-4 shots of her 3rd skill to kill vep10 boss
just take cover behind something because it can shoot through walls
Antracide 27 Jul @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by ChickenBalls:
Originally posted by Grimzy:

Have you tried using an actual DPS weapon on the boss instead of relying on Iness skills because a lot of times they arent really that great against single bosses.

usually takes 3-4 shots of her 3rd skill to kill vep10 boss
just take cover behind something because it can shoot through walls
Im killing him with last dagger. I can do massive damage with the 3rd but i cand survive being near him.
Antracide 27 Jul @ 11:47am 
Not sure why the build had secret garden with it because you cant kill the bosses with skill damage so easy. The other mobs i can kill even with thunder cage. Maybe in later stages comes more handy.
Antracide 27 Jul @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by ChickenBalls:
Originally posted by Antracide:
Im killing him with last dagger. I can do massive damage with the 3rd but i cand survive being near him.

mine has over 18k hp when using her vep preset
you need to have over 10k hp if you dont want to get one shotted
I have 11.5k hp. i tried the void erosion challange but i cant kill them in time. I have to watch some videos how they are doing it.
Originally posted by Antracide:
i tried the build against lvl 9 void erosion and i cant do it. The last boss kills me in 2 secs and i dont do damage to him. The build is complete on the descendant, only the weapon is not upgraded (unique ability)

Originally posted by Antracide:
Not sure why the build had secret garden with it because you cant kill the bosses with skill damage so easy. The other mobs i can kill even with thunder cage. Maybe in later stages comes more handy.

Consider fully upgrading your secret garden unique ability since that ability is the reason people use it with descendants that have tech skills.

I just tried VEP lvl 9 with Ines hunting hounds build, you can kill that boss with just 1 shot of her 3rd ability, the first time is easy because you already know where the boss will spawn so you only need to time your pre cast correctly. For the second phase after enrage you can try your luck using skill 3 or just run in circles avoiding damage and casting skills 1 and 2, doing that should kill it in 10-15s.

That boss enrage phase requires a DPS weapon because he becomes fully inmune to skill damage during that phase. In my case, I used excava because vulgus in VEP lvl 9 are weak to electric damage, its one of the weapons on the reactor I have with Ines and I also have it fully upgraded but you can use any of the good DPS weapons you have for this part.

If you are playing solo and having trouble avoiding damage and surviving while using slayer set then try to run some other external components that give more HP. One option is to run ascending armor auxiliary power and sensor, and plague memory and processor. This should give you around 32K HP and a reduced skill cost of around 21% at the sacrifice of around 20% less damage.

With slayer you get around 18K HP so while you are running these other components and anything hits you leaving you with 14K HP or less it means that you would have died while using slayer set. You can change back to slayer set once you are familiar with the enemy patterns and are able to avoid most or all of their damage. When playing in a group the aggro is split 4 ways so the disadvange of less HP from slayer set is less of an issue or harder to notice.

One last note, fully upgraded complete build means everything from descendant catalysts, energy activator, arche tunning, reactor; ultimate weapons unique ability, catalysts, energy activator, cores; and external components with the right stats and cores. Because not having one of those things may seem trivial sometimes but its usualy what makes the difference between doing a lot more DPS or surviving.
Originally posted by penril_knight:
Originally posted by Antracide:
i tried the build against lvl 9 void erosion and i cant do it. The last boss kills me in 2 secs and i dont do damage to him. The build is complete on the descendant, only the weapon is not upgraded (unique ability)

Originally posted by Antracide:
Not sure why the build had secret garden with it because you cant kill the bosses with skill damage so easy. The other mobs i can kill even with thunder cage. Maybe in later stages comes more handy.

Consider fully upgrading your secret garden unique ability since that ability is the reason people use it with descendants that have tech skills.

I just tried VEP lvl 9 with Ines hunting hounds build, you can kill that boss with just 1 shot of her 3rd ability, the first time is easy because you already know where the boss will spawn so you only need to time your pre cast correctly. For the second phase after enrage you can try your luck using skill 3 or just run in circles avoiding damage and casting skills 1 and 2, doing that should kill it in 10-15s.

That boss enrage phase requires a DPS weapon because he becomes fully inmune to skill damage during that phase. In my case, I used excava because vulgus in VEP lvl 9 are weak to electric damage, its one of the weapons on the reactor I have with Ines and I also have it fully upgraded but you can use any of the good DPS weapons you have for this part.

If you are playing solo and having trouble avoiding damage and surviving while using slayer set then try to run some other external components that give more HP. One option is to run ascending armor auxiliary power and sensor, and plague memory and processor. This should give you around 32K HP and a reduced skill cost of around 21% at the sacrifice of around 20% less damage.

With slayer you get around 18K HP so while you are running these other components and anything hits you leaving you with 14K HP or less it means that you would have died while using slayer set. You can change back to slayer set once you are familiar with the enemy patterns and are able to avoid most or all of their damage. When playing in a group the aggro is split 4 ways so the disadvange of less HP from slayer set is less of an issue or harder to notice.

One last note, fully upgraded complete build means everything from descendant catalysts, energy activator, arche tunning, reactor; ultimate weapons unique ability, catalysts, energy activator, cores; and external components with the right stats and cores. Because not having one of those things may seem trivial sometimes but its usualy what makes the difference between doing a lot more DPS or surviving.
i need 6 more levels for the arche and the unique ability is just lvl 1 (pest from secret garden). Do you use transcendent mod for her? that one that jumps with 3rd skill? others i saw just hide and use 3rd skill but then you have fewer charges of the first skill and you cant collect special resource for the 3rd one
Originally posted by Antracide:
i need 6 more levels for the arche and the unique ability is just lvl 1 (pest from secret garden). Do you use transcendent mod for her? that one that jumps with 3rd skill? others i saw just hide and use 3rd skill but then you have fewer charges of the first skill and you cant collect special resource for the 3rd one

Yes I use time of the hunting hounds transcendent mod for her. You should be at full resource during the whole level, it builds easy, just use your 4th skill at the right time and it should fill your resource bar. When you reach the boss you should also be with a full resource bar and first precast a skill 4th to kill the mobs, fill your resource bar in case is not full, and give conductor to the boss while you charge your skill 3.
Last edited by penril_knight; 27 Jul @ 1:33pm
Rooxon 28 Jul @ 2:05am 
Ines is great for mobbing and if you play solo, fully built out you shouldn't have too many issues... but you will need to drop a quality of life module for an HP module (provided you also have HP gold and DEF gold stats on your external components).

You want to be in the ballpark of 10+k HP and around 40k in DEF. That should allow you to tank a few hits before dying. Avoid using the Bravery set on Ines for the Purge build, as that turns you into a glass cannon - yes, useful for reducing cooldown but you'll have like 4k-5.2k HP only.

If you have her, I recommend using Gley though. She's simple enough to get and so chill to play purge with, no problem at all. You build out a Cold-element Restored Relic and focus on her 3rd ability build, so ... just cooldown and duration until you hit 9.7s and 9.8s respectively.
She'll also sit at about 40k HP and 40k DEF, tanking quite a few hits in comparison to Ines.

If you can, of course, Serena. She just wipes the map like it's nobody's business.
Last edited by Rooxon; 28 Jul @ 2:06am
Antracide 28 Jul @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Rooxon:
Ines is great for mobbing and if you play solo, fully built out you shouldn't have too many issues... but you will need to drop a quality of life module for an HP module (provided you also have HP gold and DEF gold stats on your external components).

You want to be in the ballpark of 10+k HP and around 40k in DEF. That should allow you to tank a few hits before dying. Avoid using the Bravery set on Ines for the Purge build, as that turns you into a glass cannon - yes, useful for reducing cooldown but you'll have like 4k-5.2k HP only.

If you have her, I recommend using Gley though. She's simple enough to get and so chill to play purge with, no problem at all. You build out a Cold-element Restored Relic and focus on her 3rd ability build, so ... just cooldown and duration until you hit 9.7s and 9.8s respectively.
She'll also sit at about 40k HP and 40k DEF, tanking quite a few hits in comparison to Ines.

If you can, of course, Serena. She just wipes the map like it's nobody's business.
I made the Ines build just for void erosion. But it doesnt work out as advertised on the youtube video. I have gley also but i saw some video with her using perforator just for void erosion. Wasted so much resources and time for this ines build and its just not that good or im missing something.
Rooxon 28 Jul @ 10:29am 
Originally posted by Antracide:
Originally posted by Rooxon:
Ines is great for mobbing and if you play solo, fully built out you shouldn't have too many issues... but you will need to drop a quality of life module for an HP module (provided you also have HP gold and DEF gold stats on your external components).

You want to be in the ballpark of 10+k HP and around 40k in DEF. That should allow you to tank a few hits before dying. Avoid using the Bravery set on Ines for the Purge build, as that turns you into a glass cannon - yes, useful for reducing cooldown but you'll have like 4k-5.2k HP only.

If you have her, I recommend using Gley though. She's simple enough to get and so chill to play purge with, no problem at all. You build out a Cold-element Restored Relic and focus on her 3rd ability build, so ... just cooldown and duration until you hit 9.7s and 9.8s respectively.
She'll also sit at about 40k HP and 40k DEF, tanking quite a few hits in comparison to Ines.

If you can, of course, Serena. She just wipes the map like it's nobody's business.
I made the Ines build just for void erosion. But it doesnt work out as advertised on the youtube video. I have gley also but i saw some video with her using perforator just for void erosion. Wasted so much resources and time for this ines build and its just not that good or im missing something.
Can you somehow share the build you've made? Either type everything out or pictures or... if you copied it from someone, the link would do, please.
Originally posted by Antracide:
I made the Ines build just for void erosion. But it doesnt work out as advertised on the youtube video. I have gley also but i saw some video with her using perforator just for void erosion. Wasted so much resources and time for this ines build and its just not that good or im missing something.
Ines can do it, can you share with us the build you are currently using? External components, arche tunning, modules, etc. And also what other external components and weapons you currently have so we can help you create a build with the resources you have available at your disposal. Earlier you mentioned that you have 11.5k HP so that is the first thing that you need to focus on because even with slayer set you should have around 18k in a VEP build.

If you want, later when I get off from work I can post the exact build I used for that VEP level 9 I mentioned before. Both with the slayer set that I use regularly and also the altenative version with more HP I mentioned.
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