just have any build and take drill skills and saw secondary

ARs are useful for such builds since they can work well without BE as long as you aim for headhsots(60 dmg probably best), although with a saw secondary an LMG or 255 sniper might work better for their ammo economy(but you do need to spec into BE/graze to properly use them)

as for perk decks anarchist(with suit) and grinder can work well without that much skills

Originally posted by The man, the myth, the leg:

just have any build and take drill skills and saw secondary

ARs are useful for such builds since they can work well without BE as long as you aim for headhsots(60 dmg probably best), although with a saw secondary an LMG or 255 sniper might work better for their ammo economy(but you do need to spec into BE/graze to properly use them)

as for perk decks anarchist(with suit) and grinder can work well without that much skills

I was thinking gambler with semi auto shotgun and sting GL, i have gambler maxed out but still need perks

Originally posted by Oppsitegrain37:

Originally posted by The man, the myth, the leg:

just have any build and take drill skills and saw secondary

ARs are useful for such builds since they can work well without BE as long as you aim for headhsots(60 dmg probably best), although with a saw secondary an LMG or 255 sniper might work better for their ammo economy(but you do need to spec into BE/graze to properly use them)

as for perk decks anarchist(with suit) and grinder can work well without that much skills

I was thinking gambler with semi auto shotgun and sting GL, i have gambler maxed out but still need perks

gambler kinda sucks, especially on higher diffs
for a health deck i would reccomend muscle.
copycat can also be a good health deck, 1 personally use 1-1-1-11 on some builds

Originally posted by The man, the myth, the leg:

Originally posted by Oppsitegrain37:

I was thinking gambler with semi auto shotgun and sting GL, i have gambler maxed out but still need perks

gambler kinda sucks, especially on higher diffs
for a health deck i would reccomend muscle.
copycat can also be a good health deck, 1 personally use 1-1-1-11 on some builds

I havent played in maybe a month or so, What does copycat do?

Originally posted by Oppsitegrain37:

Originally posted by The man, the myth, the leg:

gambler kinda sucks, especially on higher diffs
for a health deck i would reccomend muscle.
copycat can also be a good health deck, 1 personally use 1-1-1-11 on some builds

I havent played in maybe a month or so, What does copycat do?

copycat allows you to build a custom deck out of smaller parts
the first 3 deck specific options are all health/armor/dodge/bag carry speed along with some copycat specific bonus, the last card is copied from some other deck

"Breaking through lines" sounds like a job for a typical killwhore build. I'm pretty sure those normally aren't also good candidates for carrying drill/saw/C4 skills, though

For that purpose, I personally like using the Akimbo STRYK 18c with Berserker, crits and a massive amount of skill points invested in the Gunslinger skill tree. You could probably accomplish something similar with akimbo SMGs (or akimbos from the Federales Weapon Pack)

Originally posted by The man, the myth, the leg:

Originally posted by Oppsitegrain37:

I havent played in maybe a month or so, What does copycat do?

copycat allows you to build a custom deck out of smaller parts
the first 3 deck specific options are all health/armor/dodge/bag carry speed along with some copycat specific bonus, the last card is copied from some other deck

Some additional information:

It seems to generally be used as a health build, since the health boosts appear to be the most profound of the perk deck's boosts by far (20% health per card compared to 5% armor, 5% dodge or 10% situational movement speed)

Therefore it's seemingly mostly used to imitate other perk decks that lend themselves well to health builds (mostly Sociopath, I think) or to make health Anarchist builds

Originally posted by THE BUTT MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:

"Breaking through lines" sounds like a job for a typical killwhore build. I'm pretty sure those normally aren't also good candidates for carrying drill/saw/C4 skills, though

For that purpose, I personally like using the Akimbo STRYK 18c with Berserker, crits and a massive amount of skill points invested in the Gunslinger skill tree. You could probably accomplish something similar with akimbo SMGs (or akimbos from the Federales Weapon Pack)


It seems to generally be used as a health build, since the health boosts appear to be the most profound of the perk deck's boosts by far (20% health per card compared to 5% armor, 5% dodge or 10% situational movement speed)

Therefore it's seemingly mostly used to imitate other perk decks that lend themselves well to health builds (mostly Sociopath, I think) or to make health Anarchist builds

thanks, once i get infamy 1 i will try some of those

Originally posted by THE BUTT MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:

It seems to generally be used as a health build, since the health boosts appear to be the most profound of the perk deck's boosts by far (20% health per card compared to 5% armor, 5% dodge or 10% situational movement speed)

Therefore it's seemingly mostly used to imitate other perk decks that lend themselves well to health builds (mostly Sociopath, I think) or to make health Anarchist builds

also half of its copycat specific perks apply to health(grace at 50% and heal on headshot)