most people just run hacker with akimbo SMGs nowadays and steal all my kills
shotguns are still good, however now most weapons have damage falloff which ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up guns like M1014

Akimbo SMG hacker.

akimbo smg hacker is probably the best thing in the game, however be careful because it makes the game so easy that you will probably fall asleep and hate yourself after playing it

still sounding like a bunch of Crits build.

Originally posted by citrussy <3:

akimbo smg hacker is probably the best thing in the game, however be careful because it makes the game so easy that you will probably fall asleep and hate yourself after playing it

This is why I just kick all hacker users from my lobbies.
A bad deck, playing with which is not fun (unless that hacker user has a low playtime, which means that you can effectively steal all his kills and not allow him yo reach the maximum doddge chance on his abomination of a perk deck)

Originally posted by Xx_F3mboyBr33d3r_xX:

Originally posted by citrussy <3:

akimbo smg hacker is probably the best thing in the game, however be careful because it makes the game so easy that you will probably fall asleep and hate yourself after playing it

This is why I just kick all hacker users from my lobbies.
A bad deck, playing with which is not fun (unless that hacker user has a low playtime, which means that you can effectively steal all his kills and not allow him yo reach the maximum doddge chance on his abomination of a perk deck)

With the right hands, akimbo SMG hacker is very suppressive. A good player can basically deal with 4p spawns alone. 30kpm with akimbo SMG hacker is quite easy to achieve.

Originally posted by =WAWA= Mustaherukka Gaming:

Originally posted by Xx_F3mboyBr33d3r_xX:

This is why I just kick all hacker users from my lobbies.
A bad deck, playing with which is not fun (unless that hacker user has a low playtime, which means that you can effectively steal all his kills and not allow him yo reach the maximum doddge chance on his abomination of a perk deck)

With the right hands, akimbo SMG hacker is very suppressive. A good player can basically deal with 4p spawns alone. 30kpm with akimbo SMG hacker is quite easy to achieve.

My double smg hacker build looses on inspire but I am contributing a lot to the kills. It also has a joker and 2 ammo bags which is a rare deployable to see so yeah with the right team combination this trivializes games

This community doesnt know what perk deck preference is and it is hilarious

Originally posted by AhhPig:

This community doesnt know what perk deck preference is and it is hilarious

this thread is about the build meta, not perk deck preference what are you talking about lol

Originally posted by _galaxy:

Originally posted by =WAWA= Mustaherukka Gaming:

With the right hands, akimbo SMG hacker is very suppressive. A good player can basically deal with 4p spawns alone. 30kpm with akimbo SMG hacker is quite easy to achieve.

My double smg hacker build looses on inspire but I am contributing a lot to the kills. It also has a joker and 2 ammo bags which is a rare deployable to see so yeah with the right team combination this trivializes games

you dont really need inspire at all on hacker imo. the pecm is just that strong

hacker with akimbos is great
but my go to tryhard build is stoic with LMG and arbiter GL
snipers are also extra strong after the main downside of graze got removed, especially the fast firing ones when comboed with a good armor deck

i never liked shotguns(outside of the broken dbreath grimms). they always just felt really inconsistent

basically hacker, stoic, anarchist, leech, copy cat, armorer are meta (probably wrong/forgetting some), but nowadays people just use any deck that they want

I'm racking up more kills with a sniper rifle than people with full auto machine guns. I'm consistently at 20 kills / min with the Grom, a semi-auto sniper with a 10-round mag. There is no 'meta', man.

With 7 armors, 23 perk decks, 200+ weapons, hundreds of weapon mods, thousands and thousands of builds....Payday 2 gives you more freedom of choice than any other shooter out there! Experiment and find out what works for you.

Stop trying to find an all-around "Best" and copying others, it takes the fun out of the game. It's more about finding the best builds and loadouts for the particular mission you are about to run. I run between 30 - 40 builds and they all have different use cases.

Originally posted by CA$H THE GREAT:

I'm racking up more kills with a sniper rifle than people with full auto machine guns. I'm consistently at 20 kills / min with the Grom, a semi-auto sniper with a 10-round mag. There is no 'meta', man.

With 7 armors, 23 perk decks, 200+ weapons, hundreds of weapon mods, thousands and thousands of builds....Payday 2 gives you more freedom of choice than any other shooter out there! Experiment and find out what works for you.

Stop trying to find an all-around "Best" and copying others, it takes the fun out of the game. It's more about finding the best builds and loadouts for the particular mission you are about to run. I run between 30 - 40 builds and they all have different use cases.

I assume this is bait.

Originally posted by =WAWA= Mustaherukka Gaming:

Originally posted by CA$H THE GREAT:

I'm racking up more kills with a sniper rifle than people with full auto machine guns. I'm consistently at 20 kills / min with the Grom, a semi-auto sniper with a 10-round mag. There is no 'meta', man.

With 7 armors, 23 perk decks, 200+ weapons, hundreds of weapon mods, thousands and thousands of builds....Payday 2 gives you more freedom of choice than any other shooter out there! Experiment and find out what works for you.

Stop trying to find an all-around "Best" and copying others, it takes the fun out of the game. It's more about finding the best builds and loadouts for the particular mission you are about to run. I run between 30 - 40 builds and they all have different use cases.

I assume this is bait.

What are you talking about?