Bazzite sucks, totally sucks. Super insecure distro and also shady...

Originally posted by GNU Debian ☭:

Bazzite sucks, totally sucks. Super insecure distro and also shady...

We certainly appreciate your opinion, but I asked how to solve this problem.

Originally posted by ツ Sergio ツ:

Originally posted by GNU Debian ☭:

Bazzite sucks, totally sucks. Super insecure distro and also shady...

We certainly appreciate your opinion, but I asked how to solve this problem.

You literally asked "Is Bazzite that good?".

No.

Originally posted by ツ Sergio ツ:

Originally posted by GNU Debian ☭:

Bazzite sucks, totally sucks. Super insecure distro and also shady...

We certainly appreciate your opinion, but I asked how to solve this problem.

I will answer you.

The solution is:
If you are a beginner, install Mint or Pop os depending on your preferences.

If these two do not suit you at all for some reason, install something else.
As long as it's not the best linux from the movie on youtube.
Or linux, from the list of the best linux distributions for the year 202x
Best based on Debian, just not Ubuntu.



[msi z790 ; 13900k ; rtx4900 ; hd770]

It's a very hot PC, but that's the one you chose.
Maybe bazzite is just efficient, just like its creators intended.

Steam big picture (the new one, similar to the Deck gaming mode) is quite laggy on both Xorg and with nvidia cards (evwn on Wayland, no acceleration of the UI), and all the work is done by the CPU (hence, the heavy load).

You can alleviate the issue by using the iGPU for Steam and the dGPU for the games, ironically, easier done in a laptop than a desktop.

You can also force a lower resolution for the SBPM and disable UI scaling, which alleviates a bit the overload, but, unlike the older BPM, the new one IIRC, does not allow you to set the resolution for it.

I do think that the new BPM nests a Wayland session (or spawns one if no graphical session is running, as I'd assume Bazzite does), which also explains some of the pains with nvidia hardware. There is not much you can do, but to drop to Desktop, use dnf and rpmostree to try and install the lateat drivers from RPMFusion testing, in hopes the improved Wayland support make the experience better.

I would also suggest you try Nobara, also has a Fedora foundation, made by the Glorious Eggroll (yeah, the same of Proton) guy, and more Desktop focused, which may do things a bit easier to troubleshoot.

I don't know such a distribution, but for games I would take some gaming distribution Nobara, Garuda, SteamOS, etc.

If you need to ask, just use Mint while you wait for steamOS.

Although I bow to Valve for creating a Deck with Steam OS. I don't think it's a good system for a laptop or a desktop PC.
Steam OS is not a full-fledged Linux, it's more like a PS3 system on steroids. Yes, a large dose of steroids.

Originally posted by ツ Sergio ツ:

I've been using this since yesterday, I installed it with a lot of enthusiasm because I heard a lot of good things about this new distro, such as "it's the best distro to play on, even better than windows". But I've had some problems, for example, I closed a game 5 minutes ago and for whatever reason the processor is at maximum use and the PC fans are running at full blast. The Steam Deck or Big Picture mode that opens by default when booting the distro is super laggy.

I didn't do anything special after installing this distro, I just updated everything it told me and that's it.

What can I do to make everything work better?

PS: The CPU usage thing is curious, because I open the task manager and it shows 30% usage, by Steam. But my PC's fans sound like a turbine, super loud and the air coming out is quite hot, so I have to assume it's a sensor error.

My system specs: https://imgur.com/a/3AsyIZ2

I don't tested but is a pretty cool steam os alternative. Fun fact I watched Bringus Studios because Bazzite and Bazzite.

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

Steam OS is not a full-fledged Linux,

The current version, sure. I imagine when they make a general purpose version for desktops it will be different.

I’ve heard good things about it but haven’t used it personally.

I use Mint because it works fine for what I need.

Originally posted by Nathan:

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

Steam OS is not a full-fledged Linux,

The current version, sure. I imagine when they make a general purpose version for desktops it will be different.

I think that won't happen.

It was created as Immutable Linux, what would be the point of converting it to a regular system.

You have already chosen a good mint path, there are also other good possibilities.

Steam os, if you install it on a PC, quickly loses its charm. It's hard to adjust. It behaves unusually.
For a beginner user, it is definitely too difficult.

As a game console, supporting PC games, with something that looks and works like a desktop pc os (at first glance).
Sure, that's a great thing.

I think it will mainly end up with ready-made desktop computers running Steam OS and such laptops.

But that's not bad, much worse is using Linuxes that pretend to be Windows and behave like Windows.

Originally posted by ツ Sergio ツ:

I've been using this since yesterday, I installed it with a lot of enthusiasm because I heard a lot of good things about this new distro, such as "it's the best distro to play on, even better than windows". But I've had some problems, for example, I closed a game 5 minutes ago and for whatever reason the processor is at maximum use and the PC fans are running at full blast. The Steam Deck or Big Picture mode that opens by default when booting the distro is super laggy.

I didn't do anything special after installing this distro, I just updated everything it told me and that's it.

What can I do to make everything work better?

PS: The CPU usage thing is curious, because I open the task manager and it shows 30% usage, by Steam. But my PC's fans sound like a turbine, super loud and the air coming out is quite hot, so I have to assume it's a sensor error.

My system specs: https://imgur.com/a/3AsyIZ2

When you mentioned your CPU usage is high with Steam in the background. It almost sounds like Steam is running in software rendering mode (CPU) and not running on your dedicated GPU.

Is the toggle for hardware rendering on your GPU enabled in Steam? You can find it in Steam by going to Settings > Interface > Scroll down and look for Enable GPU. What does it show?

Could also be that your shader caches is processing and using your CPU.

The fact that you mention "Big Picture mode is laggy" also point to Steam not using your GPU for rendering.

To your other question "is Bazzite good". It depends on how much experience you have with Linux in general. Bazzite can be good for beginners as you ease your way into using Linux as a daily driver. In my honest opinion, you are better off with just installing Fedora Workstation 42 and pick your DE Gnome or KDE that you prefer.

Installing the Nvidia drivers is pretty trivial on Fedora as well. Just open Software app and scroll to bottom and select Hardware Drivers > Nvidia Linux Graphics. Let Akmod install / build for 5min and then reboot. Make sure Secure Boot is turned off in your motherboard BIOS.

I don't normally do this but you can send me a friend request on Steam and I can tell you everything you need know. It's not that hard honestly. This forum and Reddit tend to give out a lot of bad advice. I should know because I use to own an Nvidia 4090 and switched to a AMD RX 9070XT recently.

Originally posted by Zyro:

Originally posted by ツ Sergio ツ:

We certainly appreciate your opinion, but I asked how to solve this problem.

You literally asked "Is Bazzite that good?".

Exactly!!! Hahahaha

With your hardware, if your CPU is stuck at 30%, doing nothing on the computer, it is, PROBABLY, related to 2 things on steam...
*Software rendering;
*Background shaders compilation.

I DONT think it is this, but CAN be...
Intel 13th n 14th generations tend to implode with time/use, due to hardware (processor waffer) manufacturing errors... It is difficult to diagnose these kind of things, but...

I'd go with those 2 steam related things, but I'd avoid Bazzite to test stuff like you avoid the plague...

If you really love Bazzite, try fedora instead... But I'd go for a Linux Mint or something like...

When you get more used to Linux, switch to Arch Linux, OpenSuse or Debian...

PS: with your specs, your CPU usage + RAM should be, when idle, but on the window manager + steam opened:
CPU: 5%-7% (maximum)
RAM: 2GB to 3GB (maximum)