Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition

Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition

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komA 10 Dec, 2023 @ 4:52am
What do you think of potential BG1 & BG2 remake?
Hello there nice people! :auimp:
I'm doing a little research in our Baldur's Gate franchise fanbase to find out whether players would like a remake of BG1 and BG2!

https://forms.gle/V3SepbrHcqKNGCpB8 << Help me with the surveyy qwq

I'm graphic designer, so I mainly ask about it, but I would like to know people's opinions whether the remake would actually encourage players to play the older parts! If they looked grafically the same as, for example, BG3 or Diablo 4? What do you think? You would like to play it?

(by remake, of course, I also mean possible changes to the game system, such as improving side quests, conversations and relationships, and the gameplay itself)
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Messsucher 10 Dec, 2023 @ 8:08am 
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I don't think there is a need for remakes. The games has aged better than wine.
A full 3D realtime (with tactical pause) of the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games would be the most attractive option. Add to that an overhaul of the abilities, spells, skills, HLAs - and that would belong to the most difficult things of a remake.
Centurion 10 Dec, 2023 @ 11:30am 
First of all, the EE versions were remakes, although obviously not total from the ground up. Also, BG3 is an attempt to create a modern version, although not a remake of the original story. But BG3 shows why there will never be a true re-make.

I am willing to allow there are new players over 40 who are not fans, and younger players who have discovered it. But, by and large many of the original players are somewhere between hitting 40 and middle-age (guilty!) And I suspect many critics are younger players used to more action-oriented and visual games, or at least newer versions of AD&D (hence 5th ed. rules.) No one is going to do a full re-development of a 25 year-old game series with modern design but using rules from 1978 just to market to middle-aged gamers. Today nothing much gets designed unless it appeals to 13-year olds with consoles.

None of this is to say that maybe, someday, as with Hollywood, a designer desperate for a hit might not try to re-boot BG 1&2. But, like most remakes, I suspect it would be a very different game, would certainly follow the newest rules set (or no rules at all), and would probably sharpen the nostalgia for the original among its older fans.
Redwood 10 Dec, 2023 @ 11:52am 
BG1 is the best pc D&D game ever made imho, so you have the go ahead! Keep Minsc! Keep Imoen!
Unexpected 10 Dec, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
i'm very wary of remakes but since baldur's gate is mainstream once again i bet it would be inevitable
ShinsFortress 11 Dec, 2023 @ 4:47am 
Sure, if you have the resources and time, please do. I'm interested. But if it's Turn Based only, I won't touch it.
veio_piror 11 Dec, 2023 @ 5:05am 
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A remake would never be truly faithful to the originals. It would have to cope with WotC's licenses and it's interest in promoting the newest set of rules, to boost its board game, and to please new players. And since the new rules were built with a very different mindset from AD&D (mainly a great enphasis on epic playstyle; and all-out balance between classes, races, level progression and magic schools, which makes everything very similar once you realize that horns, tails, red scaly skin or size are only cosmetics, and from 3ed on Frodo can be as dangerous as Gandalf, once they have the same level), the remake would be so much different than the previous ones that it would primarily appeal to a totally new generation of players. BG3 has little to do with the previous two: maybe the setting and the name of the game. Even the lore isn't the same, so why call it 3, if not to try to attract the old fans? Well, a remake could still be a good game worthy to play, but it would not be really a "remake".
Sstavix 11 Dec, 2023 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by ShinsFortress:
Sure, if you have the resources and time, please do. I'm interested. But if it's Turn Based only, I won't touch it.
Personally I would love to see a truly turn-based option! Perhaps some sort of ability to play it in either format - either real time with pause or individual turn based.
zeeb 12 Dec, 2023 @ 5:57pm 
I'm not for a remake at all. However I would be happy with a remaster.
Same game just with bug fixes and better graphics. Maybe even 3D.

Yeah, I would definitely purchase that.
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futhark 13 Dec, 2023 @ 12:31am 
I would like a remaster, but gods no, please no full remake.
Unfortunately big companies like WotC would push their political agenda and would change lot's of stuff we like about the games. At least this possibility exists and is very likely. Game is fine as it is now for me. You can play, enjoy and you don't get lectured what to think every five minutes.
Also, i may be in the minority, but i don't like BG 3 that much and haven't bought it so far. I like RtwP way more than Turn-based.
Only my point of view, of course.
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Teratus 13 Dec, 2023 @ 3:57am 
Well the Enhanced Editions are already remake enough tbh.

I expect any additional "remakes" of these games would end up drastically changing everything them about them that makes them what they are.

Essentially they wouldn't be real remakes.. just entirely new games that mooch off the name recognition and follow the same story and characters.. probably with a lot of alterations or additions that would likely change far too much an annoy people.

Some can argue the Enhanced Editions already delved far enough into that territory as well.

In general I am pretty favourable towards the concept of remakes and there are a lot of games that I would love to see remastered and brought back today.
The problem is that most remakes don't deliver on the basic, simple thing that fans actually want.. the same game but with modern visuals and some QOL enhancements.

Instead we end up getting a completely different game half the time that some like and many older fans really hate.

Take Resident Evil 1 as a prime example of a remake done right.
Or even these Enhanced Editions to a degree can be used to.
I personally really like Enhanced Editions, even though I don't care for some of the additional characters and I recognise that some things are a bit off about them, especially BG1EE due to the engine and BG2 upgrades.
But overall they're pretty damn good imo.

What I don't want to see from remakes is things like Resident Evil 3 Nemesis or Final Fantasy 7 Remake.. as a big fan of the originals I find those remakes to be offensively awful and massively disrespectful to the original games and what they meant to the people who loved them.
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13 Dec, 2023 @ 1:30pm 
As was said already, Wizards would insist on changing the games for the worse. They would be a huge step back from what they already are. Dumbed down gameplay, teenybopper romance overload, cringe graphics, D&D 5.0 and turn based from 85 ect.
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Kamuizin 13 Dec, 2023 @ 3:03pm 
You should speak with the ppl involved in BG2 Reload (That bring BG1/2 to NWN2 engine). They may have some advanced project in the run, alerady.
futhark 14 Dec, 2023 @ 12:34am 
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As was said already, Wizards would insist on changing the games for the worse. They would be a huge step back from what they already are. Dumbed down gameplay, teenybopper romance overload, cringe graphics, D&D 5.0 and turn based from 85 ect.
Exactly. Funny enough, I play with DND 5e rules, but with lots of homebrew. I never had the chance playing with 2e rules outside of games. DND ONE will be ****, if you ask me. WotC has said so much **** already and quality of products is going downhill really fast.

I thought BG 2 Reload is long dead :D
Last edited by futhark; 14 Dec, 2023 @ 12:35am
The terms "remake" and "remaster" come into play here. The enhanced editions had started as remastered releases of the game. Originally incorporating some mods, some bug-fixes, the new companions, graphical scaling/zoom and offering the prolonged maintenance cycle that has lead to many more bug-fixes and partial rewrites of Infinity Engine backend code. I wouldn't call that "a remake", however. Remakes usually recreate a game bottom up - one could have imagined Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 in a 3D engine like Neverwinter Nights.
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