Godus
Paulusian 12 Feb, 2015 @ 5:30am
Is this a forum for open discussion, or a prison?
What's with all the furious locking of threads?

Too much hurt from the truth?

It's really a shame you can't moderate the press, huh...
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Capt.Luke 12 Feb, 2015 @ 5:50am 
it is steam forum. where moderator are more god then un in godus.
totallyTim 12 Feb, 2015 @ 5:55am 
Keep in mind these are private forums owned by a company, any content that is rule breaking may be removed (ie. Politics, Religion, Fighting, Spam, Duplicate topics).
They could have removed everything and everyone from here if they so desired, so I guess things could be worse.
earl_parvisjam 12 Feb, 2015 @ 5:58am 
The locking of the threads is justified. Trolling and antagonizing the moderators doesn't do anybody a service. All the hyperbole in the world won't change the fact that there are inappropriate means of communicating. So far, all the bans have been more than justifiable and the locked threads were little more than direct attacks at the moderators.

Capt.Luke 12 Feb, 2015 @ 6:10am 
I hope they are justifiable becasue some body else is going to get ban if not.
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earl_parvisjam 12 Feb, 2015 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by IG-88:
I hope they are justifiable beasue some body else is going to get ban if not.
Sure they are. Jumping on a forum and spamming walls of text isn't acceptable, regardless of the circumstances. Repeatedly creating threads that call out the mods is going to get the response it deserves.

There are rules and Steam has listed them out pretty clearly. I don't necessarily agree with all of them but it's not a surprise. Every one of those locked threads was created with the expectation of getting a reaction from a moderator. I just can't get behind indignant anger at getting what was wanted. The actions being cracked down on are little more than arresting rioters that are throwing rocks through store front windows.
Paulusian 12 Feb, 2015 @ 6:53am 
Um, except not "every one of those locked threads was created with the expectation of getting a reaction from a moderator."

One of those locked threads was a pinned thread, started by our moderator, concerning the derailing of threads; it was locked on the premise it had "outlived its usefulness" because the reason of "not being on topic" he'd provided as an excuse to delete a post he wasn't comfortable with wouldn't hold water.

I'd say I'd never believe that a moderator would start a thread as a direct attack against himself to elicit a reaction from himself, but we're talking about someone connected to a company led by a man who wishes he'd be stabbed by a fan...I could very well be wrong.
earl_parvisjam 12 Feb, 2015 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Paulusian:
Um, except not "every one of those locked threads was created with the expectation of getting a reaction from a moderator."

One of those locked threads was a pinned thread, started by our moderator, concerning the derailing of threads; it was locked on the premise it had "outlived its usefulness" because the reason of "not being on topic" he'd provided as an excuse to delete a post he wasn't comfortable with wouldn't hold water.

I'd say I'd never believe that a moderator would start a thread as a direct attack against himself to elicit a reaction from himself, but we're talking about someone connected to a company led by a man who wishes he'd be stabbed by a fan...I could very well be wrong.

That thread should have been locked the moment it was posted. It was created by a mod to make a statement. By policy, anyone debating it was risking breaking Steam rules. To be angry that the OP locked his own thread is a bit silly. It's also a distraction.

Be honest, you know full well that the rest of the locked threads were created to antagonize the mods. Even what resulted in the pinned thread being locked was trolling. It's not helping.
Natu 12 Feb, 2015 @ 7:21am 
Say what you want about this game, but I think the moderators should be commended for letting people discuss as much as they want.
Paulusian 12 Feb, 2015 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by earl_parvisjam:
Originally posted by Paulusian:
Um, except not "every one of those locked threads was created with the expectation of getting a reaction from a moderator."

One of those locked threads was a pinned thread, started by our moderator, concerning the derailing of threads; it was locked on the premise it had "outlived its usefulness" because the reason of "not being on topic" he'd provided as an excuse to delete a post he wasn't comfortable with wouldn't hold water.

I'd say I'd never believe that a moderator would start a thread as a direct attack against himself to elicit a reaction from himself, but we're talking about someone connected to a company led by a man who wishes he'd be stabbed by a fan...I could very well be wrong.

That thread should have been locked the moment it was posted. It was created by a mod to make a statement. By policy, anyone debating it was risking breaking Steam rules. To be angry that the OP locked his own thread is a bit silly. It's also a distraction.

Be honest, you know full well that the rest of the locked threads were created to antagonize the mods. Even what resulted in the pinned thread being locked was trolling. It's not helping.

Yes, let's be honest.

That pinned thread should never have been posted in the first place, and it's statement was unnecessary.

But for the fact that the moderator felt the need to be passive-aggressive, none of those threads "created to antagonize the mods" would have ever been posted. One reaps what one sows...

It's high time that--instead of the empty platitudes and insincere apologies--22Cans and it's representatives (including the moderators here) need to realize the majority of the unsavory aspects they're having to deal with are of their own making.

When the moderator can't even be bothered to be familiar with the rules he's manipulatively enforcing, it's an issue far greater than merely responding to simple trolling.

You're mistaking disgusted contempt for anger.
Mahoosive 12 Feb, 2015 @ 11:00am 
According to the Steam Rules there is actually no allowable content. Technically anyone could be banned at any time based on interpretation and citing the rules.

But Godus has some pretty chill mods, so we should be thankful that they don't ban us even after the game has gone down the toilet and everyone is dragging it through the mud (deservedly so, I might add).
It's actually a prison, which is why nobody here can just lea--

No...
Wait...
That's not right...
Paulusian 12 Feb, 2015 @ 1:09pm 
Well, when I hopped onto the forum this morning, all the grayed-out locked threads looked like bars on a prison window...lol
Jazer426 12 Feb, 2015 @ 1:50pm 
So much going on right now, but to be expected from those who are under the thumbs of this company. Grab some popcorn and just watch as the show that is godus continues to play out
earl_parvisjam 12 Feb, 2015 @ 8:00pm 
Originally posted by Paulusian:
Yes, let's be honest.

That pinned thread should never have been posted in the first place, and it's statement was unnecessary.

But for the fact that the moderator felt the need to be passive-aggressive, none of those threads "created to antagonize the mods" would have ever been posted. One reaps what one sows...

It's high time that--instead of the empty platitudes and insincere apologies--22Cans and it's representatives (including the moderators here) need to realize the majority of the unsavory aspects they're having to deal with are of their own making.

When the moderator can't even be bothered to be familiar with the rules he's manipulatively enforcing, it's an issue far greater than merely responding to simple trolling.

You're mistaking disgusted contempt for anger.
I agree with you that the pinned thread was a bad decision. I pretty much said as much in my initial post in it. However, claiming that that thread is the reason people lost their bowels is blatantly false and I think you know as much.

The bulk of the thread spam (primarily from two individuals) came about from the media firestorm. More than half the locked threads were from the same person, who showed up on here after the articles kicked off. Most of the other threads were eventually locked for that very reason.

What has me so confused is that people have gone so far off the deep end that I'm actually siding with the mods on here. ME. If you honestly think that baiting moderators, rising to moderator flame bait, or spamming of wall of texts are going to produce positive results, I have little else to say but "that's on you" when you get your inevitable ban.

This isn't a prison, it's a forum. It's not even the only forum. When something new comes up on here, I say my piece as clearly as possible and move on. If I come under fire from official channels on here, I document it on the Proboards and call for rational discussion there. Why? Because it's somewhere that I know they are reading it, I can freely say my piece, and there's no risk of breaching Steam policy.

I agree that 22Cans needs to step up and actually produce rather than promise. I've been calling them on the empty words for months and have refused to change my tune, even when it seemed like there was honest change about to happen. At that point, I said my piece, stepped back, and waited for the inevitable. I was a dissenting voice during Gmr_Leon's big question session, not believing things to change though I really wished it would have been more than just an epic attempt.

What I didn't do is create a wall of text that I spammed all over this forum. I didn't create incendiary threads that wouldn't hold up to any but the most forgiving stretch of the Steam policy. I might have posted a brief disagreement about a moderator about a decision, but I didn't then subsequently go on the offensive by reposting my dissatisfaction at every opportunity all over the board. There are ways to go about things and ways that will just end in a person being forced to bow out of the conversation. We've seen people on this forum in the past that couldn't figure out this distinction. They weren't helping then and they aren't around any more.
ChillCore 12 Feb, 2015 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by earl_parvisjam:
I agree with you that the pinned thread was a bad decision. I pretty much said as much in my initial post in it. However, claiming that that thread is the reason people lost their bowels is blatantly false and I think you know as much.

The bulk of the thread spam (primarily from two individuals) came about from the media firestorm. More than half the locked threads were from the same person, who showed up on here after the articles kicked off. Most of the other threads were eventually locked for that very reason.

What has me so confused is that people have gone so far off the deep end that I'm actually siding with the mods on here. ME. If you honestly think that baiting moderators, rising to moderator flame bait, or spamming of wall of texts are going to produce positive results, I have little else to say but "that's on you" when you get your inevitable ban.

This isn't a prison, it's a forum. It's not even the only forum. When something new comes up on here, I say my piece as clearly as possible and move on. If I come under fire from official channels on here, I document it on the Proboards and call for rational discussion there. Why? Because it's somewhere that I know they are reading it, I can freely say my piece, and there's no risk of breaching Steam policy.

I agree that 22Cans needs to step up and actually produce rather than promise. I've been calling them on the empty words for months and have refused to change my tune, even when it seemed like there was honest change about to happen. At that point, I said my piece, stepped back, and waited for the inevitable. I was a dissenting voice during Gmr_Leon's big question session, not believing things to change though I really wished it would have been more than just an epic attempt.

What I didn't do is create a wall of text that I spammed all over this forum. I didn't create incendiary threads that wouldn't hold up to any but the most forgiving stretch of the Steam policy. I might have posted a brief disagreement about a moderator about a decision, but I didn't then subsequently go on the offensive by reposting my dissatisfaction at every opportunity all over the board. There are ways to go about things and ways that will just end in a person being forced to bow out of the conversation. We've seen people on this forum in the past that couldn't figure out this distinction. They weren't helping then and they aren't around any more.
^^^ Exatly what I was thinking but did not say to not risk being accused of stirring things up further.

There is nothing I can think of to add to this post that would not be already said in the previous one.

/me goes back to sitting on hands for the time being.





EDIT: new page so added quote.
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