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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 5:15pm
Thrones
This is just my perspective after Sean cleared up how crusade points and thrones work. I posted something similar in a previous post but previous post was confusing.

Thrones should be taken by Endless Dungeon depth, Endless Dungeon should remove all buffs except gear protection and the depth you achieve would be measured purely from choices you made in gear and spells you have chosen, resilience, patience and skills, not some random luck based off the market and tricky math based on skills and runes you don't actually use to play the game.

Crusade points could stay the way they are and all the little pedestal thrones can stay the same but the major thrones should not be taken the way they currently are, its fake and shows no skill set other than math skills and prior knowledge of "how the game works" that people clearly don't understand, there are multiple posts about the confusion.

I think everybody would understand how the ED system worked, its simple, makes sense, not fake and takes no tricks to achieve.

The thrones would change more often, make it much more exciting, and ED would be filled with people, when entering the ED the game would auto blessing of the gods while in so no curses or blessings could be used. This would eliminate "fake" depths and "grieving". The thrones would be something you could actually feel proud of because it was based off what you bring to the table rather then what you waited to be served.

This would also solve the "what do I do when the story is over" issue. This brings some end game fun that is not a pure grind fest, but would stilll require some grind / time / money sink to achieve the spells and gear and upgrades to get the deepest depth. I don't see how the current system is better then this idea in any way.
Last edited by Rapptture; 23 Sep, 2014 @ 5:32pm
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Cybersysop 23 Sep, 2014 @ 5:34pm 
Well My Bro, very interesting idea, But I would prefer to see a Podium instead for the endless dungon, Dump the blessing podium. Because of allighnments and a few other major factors but I Prefer champ challenges when Player vs player gets here, However, the Thrown king can only be challlenged by the same alighnment and some other pretty serious prequalifications must be met, like the same exact gear ect, ect. not just anyone or else it would be ridiculous, but yea I would enjoy a few things different, but the way to get a thrown was been made for all to see when we both started, that is why I am playing the way I play. It is very hard and takes allot and I mean allot of patience and skill too, I think! I do think there could be a diferent way for the throwns but I have no Idea how! And cheating seems to be a little problem in my oppinion! So for now, I'll take the curent way because several pretenders for the contenders of and on the thrown have been caught and banned!
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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 5:52pm 
Originally posted by Cybersysop:
Well My Bro, very interesting idea, But I would prefer to see a Podium instead for the endless dungon, Dump the blessing podium. Because of allighnments and a few other major factors but I Prefer champ challenges when Player vs player gets here, However, the Thrown king can only be challlenged by the same alighnment and some other pretty serious prequalifications must be met, like the same exact gear ect, ect. not just anyone or else it would be ridiculous, but yea I would enjoy a few things different, but the way to get a thrown was been made for all to see when we both started, that is why I am playing the way I play. It is very hard and takes allot and I mean allot of patience and skill too, I think! I do think there could be a diferent way for the throwns but I have no Idea how! And cheating seems to be a little problem in my oppinion! So for now, I'll take the curent way because several pretenders for the contenders of and on the thrown have been caught and banned!

You would rather keep a system that is fake and can be cheated rather then a system based off skill and the choices you make that you actually use to play the game, you should think about that and re-read what you wrote. Also it takes no skill to run around and grind on the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over again just so you can earn enough souls to fake it, by buying ♥♥♥♥ you dont use in the game just to achieve a throne (not thrown) btw.

You can keep it, you didn't do ♥♥♥♥ for it except grind, no skill required.

Also when I say patience I don't mean everyday over and over again "waiting" for the right ammount of souls to gather and then sitting everyday re-rolling the market waiting for the RNG to give you the "right" 2 socket gear, I mean patience like not rushing in to a room full of troll zerks and witch doctors and having to actually use strategy to progress. Get in the ED and make it to 16 floors deep and you will understand patience.

1 more thing, pvp is pvp, you want some you get some, it better not matter what you have or don't or prequalification bs, you want a challenge then you challenge. You don't walk up to a caos and hand them a resume, make sure they "qualify" and then agree to fight. You just swing and you better bring your A game.
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Cybersysop 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:05pm 
No my friend, that is not at all what I meant, I just dont think the endless Dungon is the way and I am not only playing for a Thrown, it would be nice yes but as you know, this is a longer term game than I anticipated and so I have a different strategy than you do, I asure you and U know I will take skill first and foremost anyday, but as I see it all of your future champs are setup from your first transcend bu that is my oppinion. U know I like skill stats and will always support that, but the game was not made by me and so far, I have notseen many changes, but they do say they are to come. But yea!!! I would love to kick your A** in the game and U mine I am sure, we ar both like that, but I would win. LOL!
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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:09pm 
Originally posted by Cybersysop:
No my friend, that is not at all what I meant, I just dont think the endless Dungon is the way and I am not only playing for a Thrown, it would be nice yes but as you know, this is a longer term game than I anticipated and so I have a different strategy than you do, I asure you and U know I will take skill first and foremost anyday, but as I see it all of your future champs are setup from your first transcend bu that is my oppinion. U know I like skill stats and will always support that, but the game was not made by me and so far, I have notseen many changes, but they do say they are to come. But yea!!! I would love to kick your A** in the game and U mine I am sure, we ar both like that, but I would win. LOL!

You can test your theory right now. Go get in the ED and see if you can beat my depth of 22, I am trying to beat Thulz's depth of 25. When I run the ED I only use 2 buffs, I use run speed and gear protection. I respect Thulz's skill based off his depth, not his crusade points. If you think you can kick my ass then by all means go get past 22 with no buffs other then run speed and gear protection.

I didn't lose at 22 either I left because I thought I had the right points to take out Sean just to find out it didn't even matter. With that being said I have gone back in 2 times since then and have not been able to beat 22 so I think it is a fair representation at the moment and is accurate to my skill level, I go in daily and try to beat it. Again NO BUFFS other then RUN SPEED and GEAR PROTECTION.
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Cybersysop 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:18pm 
What U have only been to 22 and U want 2 challenge me, I m laughing to hard to write, just kidding OK! I cant for a few days yet, I have not transcended yet, but today I met my soul goal and will be moving much faster now so I will let U know as soon as I transcend but you do know when I was at level 25 and made it to endless 10 and then quit because of not enough souls and leveling too fast. I have seen that it now says I went to three? never done that so I dont know, before that it said 2 and I have not played since 10. Go figure??? but yea I accept very soon Bro, thanx and that will be fun!
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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Cybersysop:
What U have only been to 22 and U want 2 challenge me, I m laughing to hard to write, just kidding OK! I cant for a few days yet, I have not transcended yet, but today I met my soul goal and will be moving much faster now so I will let U know as soon as I transcend but you do know when I was at level 25 and made it to endless 10 and then quit because of not enough souls and leveling too fast. I have seen that it now says I went to three? never done that so I dont know, before that it said 2 and I have not played since 10. Go figure??? but yea I accept very soon Bro, thanx and that will be fun!

There are only 26 out of 37,000 people world wide that have been deeper then me and I am sure some of them if not all were buffed with more then run speed and gear protection. ED changes after 15, I can get to 10 without trying in my sleep with dead batteries in my controller, 10 means nothing. Just fyi.
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Cybersysop 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:22pm 
Only sissies use controllers, real Men use Xbox controllers, like me!!
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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Cybersysop:
Only sissies use controllers, real Men use Xbox controllers, like me!!

controller is a controller is a controller, go get some, stop with the excuses and get past me and thulz since its so easy and your so tough :smilin:
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Sean 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:25pm 
Interesting concept.

Personally, I would like to see it being the overall crusade points earned with a given factions (so the amount you sacrificed for that god), and also have that leaderboard reset each month to give people a fair chance at it since of how high it could get.

Still, the idea of a buff-less Endless Dungeon does sound good, and maybe have it as a choice of Easy (which would be normal) or Hard (with this being the only way for the throne spot).
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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by Sean:
Interesting concept.

Personally, I would like to see it being the overall crusade points earned with a given factions (so the amount you sacrificed for that god), and also have that leaderboard reset each month to give people a fair chance at it since of how high it could get.

Still, the idea of a buff-less Endless Dungeon does sound good, and maybe have it as a choice of Easy (which would be normal) or Hard (with this being the only way for the throne spot).

sounds awesome, i would love it and be in it everyday all day lol.
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Cybersysop 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:27pm 
Look I know your good, I just better, face it, the truth hurts I know, LOL. You are as competative as I am. give me 1 and 1/2 weeks and we are on, no holds barred. I have worked to hard to get were I want to go. U know that, so give me my time then we can see about bragging rrights. I am sure you dont want to mess up what I have been working so hard on my Bro!
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Cybersysop 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by Sean:
Interesting concept.

Personally, I would like to see it being the overall crusade points earned with a given factions (so the amount you sacrificed for that god), and also have that leaderboard reset each month to give people a fair chance at it since of how high it could get.

Still, the idea of a buff-less Endless Dungeon does sound good, and maybe have it as a choice of Easy (which would be normal) or Hard (with this being the only way for the throne spot).
Yea, there yea go Rapptture, Im game for that!
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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by Cybersysop:
Look I know your good, I just better, face it, the truth hurts I know, LOL. You are as competative as I am. give me 1 and 1/2 weeks and we are on, no holds barred. I have worked to hard to get were I want to go. U know that, so give me my time then we can see about bragging rrights. I am sure you dont want to mess up what I have been working so hard on my Bro!

ED would not mess up anything you are working on, you spend the 200k on gear protection and you would have half of that back assuming you could get past level 3, other then that grinding in the ED is the same as outside.

Go get some, see if you could be 1 of the 26 out of 37,000 people that can beat me, with no buffs.
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Cybersysop 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:31pm 
Yes it would! I asure U it would. We can wait a little, even Ali and Frasier had to wait. What is that psyching U out!! he he he!
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Rapptture 23 Sep, 2014 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by Cybersysop:
Yes it would! I asure U it would. We can wait a little, even Ali and Frasier had to wait. What is that psyching U out!! he he he!

I've already done it, your not psyching me out, you just look scared. Put it up or shut it up.
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