Jon Shafer's At the Gates

Jon Shafer's At the Gates

clayffo 13 May, 2021 @ 7:10am
Interesting discovery
I looked on the michigan state corporations site today and jon filed his annual corporate report yesterday, 5/12/21.

This is interesting for 2 reasons:
1. He’s supposedly living in Sweden
2. This game is abandoned and I cannot find another project advertised that conifer games is developing. What is the point in paying annual fees to renew a company that has no revenue and has a terrible reputation?
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Ryan42 22 May, 2021 @ 3:00am 
Because it's not completely abandoned, he occasionally might plan to work on some updates. He sure takes his time though, and the fees aren't much.
Sparazard 22 May, 2021 @ 11:23am 
There's a lot that goes into owning a company/business... while I'm sure this post was supposed to be an own as this game is upsetting to a lot of people- but imagine someone standing right next to you when you take a $#!* criticizing how you fold your toilet paper before wiping. There's a guy drooling on you asking you every 5 minutes on why you take a poop the way you do. Then he picks it up, sniffs it, gives it a little lick. "This is what I waited for?" He proclaims. Imagine that. Sometimes we need to accept that someone took an L and move on... don't be that kid in highschool that keeps reminding someone of something they did in pre-school- "remember when you sh!t your pants and you cried!? LOL!!!" It's over. This game is an attempt at a good idea, and it fell short... not every project is a home run. All I wanted to do was to look at the discussions for this game and the very first post made me upset... good bye Jon's fan club!!!
clayffo 23 May, 2021 @ 10:45am 
I'll leave you fan boys to it. Here are a few more interesting things.

- last update on the website 4/10/2020 . No mention he is working on anything. The security certificate on the website is expired which means he's not paying attention to it
https://www.atthegatesgame.com/news/v14-diplomacy-design-plan

- his non ATG twitter he's actively talking to ppl, but nothing on ATG. He does have time to congratulate the people at Paradox who took a chance on hiring him, then he promptly quit on them. The creative differences were that he's washed up
https://twitter.com/JonShaferDesign/with_replies?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-11-17-jon-shafer-leaves-paradox-over-creative-differences

- The @conifergames twitter is abandoned
https://twitter.com/ConiferGames/with_replies

Here are 2 more things:
1. his quick bio on twitter uses the phrase, "fortune favors the bold." It's not bold to take $100k from people on KS, release a broken game 6 years late, then do 4 updates that break it further, then pretend the game doesn't exist.

2. He still uses Civ 5 as his resume as of this month. Civ 5 was released in 2010. He also mentions owning Conifer games, but does not take credit for ATG. In the world of gaming 11 years is a lifetime to have no accomplishments.
Multihack 26 May, 2021 @ 12:28pm 
I'm somewhere in-between, to be honest. Jon did a poor job of releasing this game, but at the end of the day he does throw out an update once in a long while. At the same time it's not an acceptable product, but the reviews speak for themselves. I'm glad at least v1.4 was released because the game became A LOT better. Maybe we'll see a 1.5 this year?

On a side note I found this interview with Jon about his roadmap of ATG and his Steam sales:
https://youtu.be/68aGADEniwM?t=38
Joshybones 5 Jun, 2021 @ 9:47am 
stop obsessing and go play something else
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