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Nexis 17 Feb, 2017 @ 7:37am
[Solved] Renegade Rover impossible, Unstable Wheel-Construction
The Achievement "Renegade Rover" seems impossible now.
Reason for this is either the Unstable Wheel-Construction of the small Rover or the too high influence of Earth's Gravity on Rover or both.

If i start a "Test Vehicle" with a Small Rover without Instruments on Top and only one Battery, the Rover seems still to be too heavy and the Wheel-Construction makes a split (Spagat).
Look this Screenshot:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=865811092

So it is impossible to drive the Rover even a few meters without braking off the Wheels. And impossible to drive the small Rover to the Escape.
Last edited by Nexis; 22 Feb, 2017 @ 5:59pm
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Brandjuh[NL] 18 Feb, 2017 @ 5:55am 
Do you have mods enabled? I dont have that problem, the problem I have is everytime I want escape the yard.
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Crash info
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Unhandled exception

Program: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Take On Mars\TKOM.exe
Reason: Access violation. Illegal read by 102cdb14 at 18
Script callstack:
Class: 'Sound_Point'
Entity name:''

Function: 'SetTKOMSoundVolume'
Stack trace:
scripts/Global/GlobalFuncs.h:728
scripts/Entities/SoundPoint.h:43
scripts/Entities/SoundPoint.h:74
scripts/Entities/SoundPoint.h:92
scripts/CCGame.c:1179

[enf::XAudio2System::GetCurrentSample]: ??? addr:0x102cdb14
[enf::XAudio2System::GetCurrentSample]: ??? addr:0x102cdb14

(Press Retry to debug the application - JIT must be enabled)
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Nexis 18 Feb, 2017 @ 6:59am 
No, i have no Mods aktive. Especially not in Robotik-Career.
Brandjuh[NL] 18 Feb, 2017 @ 7:00am 
Hm strange, I just tried it and its working. Maybe make a new one? The error is my problem why its impossible :|
Nexis 18 Feb, 2017 @ 10:20am 
Please show me a Picture of your correct working small Rover at Mars Yard.
Brandjuh[NL] 18 Feb, 2017 @ 11:29am 
*removed links*
Edit: seems like I cant make screenshots in this game.
Edit2: http://www.roelsmitsfotografie.nl/file/prive/screenschots/screenshot18-02-2017-20u34m51s.png
Last edited by Brandjuh[NL]; 18 Feb, 2017 @ 11:35am
Nexis 18 Feb, 2017 @ 4:14pm 
@Developers
Bug still exists (Wheel Construction too weak, so "Renegade Rover"-Achievement not solveable). Have no Mods enabled. I play with Realtime.
Can you confirm the Bug?

@Brandjuh
Sorry, but i do not trust non-steam-url's.
Try to deactivate and reactivate Screenshots in the Steam-Settings.
Last edited by Nexis; 18 Feb, 2017 @ 4:34pm
Brandjuh[NL] 18 Feb, 2017 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by Nexis:
@Developers
Bug still exists (Wheel Construction too weak, so "Renegade Rover"-Achievement not solveable). Have no Mods enabled. Can you please confirm the Bug?

@Brandjuh
Sorry, but i do not trust non-steam-url's.
Try to deactivate and reactivate Screenshots in the Steam-Settings.
I can tell its perfect save, but I can understand why you dont trust it.
Brandjuh[NL] 20 Feb, 2017 @ 2:58am 
Fixed the game by reinstalling and lucky having backup savegames.
Steam screenshot: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=868296814
Last edited by Brandjuh[NL]; 20 Feb, 2017 @ 2:59am
Nexis 20 Feb, 2017 @ 3:48am 
Thx for the Picture. Do you play Realtime oder Virtualtime?
My Friend is playing Virtualtime and hasn't this Bug too. I play Realtime and seem to have this Bug.
I do not get it why i have the Bug but you not.

The Facts for Dev's:
- I play a Realtime-Savegame
- Have already File-checked the Build of the Game. No Results.
- My System-Specs:
Nvidia GTX 750Ti
AMD 8350 (8 Core á 4 GHz)
16 GB RAM
Windows 7 Pro
- Graphic-Drivers actual
- No Mods enabled. Especially not in Singleplayer. And they were never Mods installed before.

Is maybe something wrong with a Physix-File? Or is there something wrong in the Settings?
Last edited by Nexis; 20 Feb, 2017 @ 4:06am
Brandjuh[NL] 20 Feb, 2017 @ 3:50am 
Indeed virtual time.

Edit: I must say since the reinstall etc, the physics are very strange. I am standing still ands its whobbeling around.
Last edited by Brandjuh[NL]; 20 Feb, 2017 @ 3:51am
Nexis 20 Feb, 2017 @ 4:14am 
Originally posted by Brandjuh NL:
Indeed virtual time.

Edit: I must say since the reinstall etc, the physics are very strange. I am standing still ands its whobbeling around.
Oh :( But nevertheles thx for this Information :) Maybe it helps the Dev's to find out that something is wrong with the physics.

Maybe it is the same Failure in Physics, which let your Rover wobbeling and which creates a weak Wheel suspension at my Rover.

I hope the Game is still playable for you, at least for Mars-Surface to solve Missions.

Edit: I have tested (Test Vehicle) a full equipped Medium-Rover. Same Problem with weak Wheel Suspension.
I sent this full equipped Medium Rover to Mars/Victoria, but there all works fine with Wheel suspension.
Brandjuh[NL] 20 Feb, 2017 @ 4:27am 
Jup, looks like its a leak suspecion that cause the wobbeling in combination with the small them gen on it, so it was possible.

But... I did test with a large lander on the test yard and when I want to move my arm it was doing the split.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=868326698

Maybe its more sensetive on real time? Sounds strange but it is possible. Maybe we could make a blueprint of the vehicles and test them out on both. So we can rule it out.

Edit: I realise that there is a option under render with physics or someting, cant check it out know, must go for appointment. Maybe thats also the problem.
Last edited by Brandjuh[NL]; 20 Feb, 2017 @ 4:33am
Nexis 21 Feb, 2017 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by Brandjuh NL:
Maybe its more sensetive on real time? Sounds strange but it is possible. Maybe we could make a blueprint of the vehicles and test them out on both. So we can rule it out.
You can find my Rover in Workshop. Type Rovo into Searchbar ;)
But it will take a long time for you to research all neccessary items, to build and test my Rover in Realtime. Because in Realtime no Timewarp is possible.
Last edited by Nexis; 21 Feb, 2017 @ 6:12am
Brandjuh[NL] 21 Feb, 2017 @ 1:34pm 
Hm blueprints are affected bij the use of realtime or warp?
Nexis 22 Feb, 2017 @ 5:58pm 
Solved!
I had the weak Wheel Suspension because i had decreased the "Physix Simulation Detail" in Render-Options to Minimum (59 Hertz).

Now i have set the "Physix Simulation Detail" to 180 Hertz. And all works fine now :)

Thank you nevertheless to the Developers and Brandjuh. Awesome Game :mast:

Greetings from Germany and from virtual :mars:
Last edited by Nexis; 22 Feb, 2017 @ 5:59pm
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