Sovereignty: Crown of Kings

Sovereignty: Crown of Kings

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Vargas78 4 Sep, 2019 @ 8:43am
I think Slitherine should revisit Sovereignty Crown of Kings
This has all the makings of being a great strategy game. I like the battle system, the world map, the factions. Sadly it falls short of the mark due to bugs and the a.i. is weak.

But i think Slitherine could revive this game if it were to invest more time in it. Maybe an overhaul of the game engine itself. With a multiplayer mode too. And relaunch it as a redux or remastered edition, if done right this could bring in a swathe of new players and make Sovereignty a game that strategy game fans talk about, up there with the likes of Dominions or the Endless series, rather than an obscure title that people avoid due to the issues.

Will this ever happen? Probably not, Slitherine has a lot of games on it's roster and a lot of commitments on their more successful titles. But I hope it's not the end of the road for Sovereignty a game with an amazing potential.
Last edited by Vargas78; 4 Sep, 2019 @ 8:45am
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athelasloraiel 4 Sep, 2019 @ 1:48pm 
agreed. awesome game. was in beta. Birthright wannabe.
Captain_Narol 5 Sep, 2019 @ 4:49am 
I agree, but the problem is not with Slitherine (which is only the editor) but with the developpers : Gothic Labs and The Lordz Games Studios.

Those dropped the ball quite quickly and have been unable to fix the game problems after release, it's a pity as the game really had potential !

I don't know if they burned out or if something bad happened in the backyard, but the game didn't got the support it needed and that's the heart of the problem.
KaliYama 5 Sep, 2019 @ 6:15pm 
I just thought of this game too. what a shame they never finished it and sold us this piece of junk.
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Undergrowler 6 Sep, 2019 @ 10:33am 
I very much agree. The game concept is great and have a lot of potential. I want more games like this but unfortunately I can't find any.
Breca 7 Sep, 2019 @ 12:06pm 
This is a topic I have hesitated to step into, but this may be the right time. Gothic Labs has shuttered its doors. I will speak directly.

I have seen this topic as a recurring theme, and in many ways, it is on the mark. Sovereignty represents an elusive glimmer of light, an unfulfilled potential. I understand your frustration. I share it.

Sovereignty was originally envisaged as a grand campaign world, steeped with rival cultures that could set the stage for epic strategy games, role-playing games, novels. What it lacked was the financial backing, business savvy to acquire it, and ultimately, manpower to realize its potential. The game you see was developed on zero budget (literally), by a few very idealistic devs on their spare time while working other full time jobs, because we all have to eat. In many ways, it's a miracle it released at all, and without Lordz Game Studios, it would not have crossed the finish line.

I would like to thank Lordz and Slitherine, and I am personally excited about their Fantasy General 2 and Panzer Corps 2 titles. Both look to be loving reimaginings of great games that would also otherwise be shuttered by SSI's closure long ago.

Will Sovereignty one day be reincarnated as well? That would be wonderful to see. It would take an entirely different approach to development though: an actual dev budget and marketing to give it the air to spread its wings as it was meant to.

I want to thank the players who have stuck with it, who continue to see that potential and believe in something greater.

Breca



i_nive 7 Sep, 2019 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by Breca:
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To a better journey then, wishing you all the best!


Captain_Narol 7 Sep, 2019 @ 5:09pm 
Thanks Breca for the explanation, I'm sad to hear that Gothic Labs has closed its doors but that explains a lot.

This game could really have been a gem with a little polish, and it's already a huge accomplishment considering the financial situation that you describe.

I wish you the best, wherever you go.
athelasloraiel 8 Sep, 2019 @ 9:58pm 
Sorry to hear that. I think it was a great game (was in beta), though low world magic issue i never agreed with.
Haegler 9 Sep, 2019 @ 3:14am 
That is indeed quite sad to hear Breca. My respects to the devs of Gothic Labs who put in all that effort. For the little they were working with, they did an amazing job!
Rowdied 10 Sep, 2019 @ 4:18pm 
Very Very Sad to hear... if you were able to release a fix for the lack of AI movement in tactical combat people might still revisit the game as it is very playable right now even with a few other bugs.
Hope you all the best in the future!
Undergrowler 14 Sep, 2019 @ 3:16am 
Dangit that's bad news! Fortunately the game is still playable for me so there is that. :)
T-Duke76 14 Sep, 2019 @ 1:20pm 
Thanks for the sincere words. Best luck for any kind of future project!
Mongo Loyd 14 Sep, 2019 @ 5:48pm 
I was just thinking about this game earlier. Sad that its ded and will no longer be worked on, It had such great potential..... I had some great times playing this, especially my first run through as Cor Vilad. I stopped the orcs in the mountain passes. I crushed the Humans to the north, east, and west. I purged the undead from their swamps, Clipped the wings of the dragon lords, then I finally payed back the Empire for its past aggressions!
I heartiy enjoyed the world made by the devs.
Cor Vilad will never die!
OneShoe 13 Oct, 2019 @ 12:03am 
There should be some accountability for when they pushed this title out of beta. It was bug ridden and the discussion forum was full of crash reports and problems. It was an outright rip off of unsuspecting players. They must have already been planning to recoup as much of their investment as possible and then abandon it after a minor update or two. We got shafted. The honest thing to do would have been to refund players and remove the title from Steam. WTF is it still doing here? Why is there no warning any where that this is abandonware? Are people actually still buying this?
Vargas78 13 Oct, 2019 @ 3:54am 
I don't think the game is that fundamentally broken One Shoe. Though it's been a while since i last played it was quite possible to have long sessions without any technical problems (I'm thinking of reinstalling the game to put things to the test). Yet, that aside the a.i. for me was the other disappointing aspect to the game, both on the battlefield (which i otherwise thought was a great way to find battles in a grand strategy) and on the world map but i wouldn't count that as something that should disqualify a game from sale.

Though i've got my free time quite full playing other games at the moment I'm seriously thinking of giving Sovereignty another go as i'm curious to see the extent of technical issues and other problems as it's been a while.
Last edited by Vargas78; 13 Oct, 2019 @ 4:00am
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