I don´t know what you mean. You can also ignore all borders.

Cities and armies have a zone of control-a circle around the army that nothing can pass through-if they try they will trigger a battle. Ai armies just walk straight through without anything happening. This is a major cheat or a stupid bug and it ruins the campaign game.

sometimes if you zoom in you will notice that there is a small gap between the zone of control and whatever is next to the army. it could be another of your armies or some obstacle. they can squeeze through that space. and yes i agree. it is cheating in a way

sometimes if you zoom in you will notice that there is a small gap between the zone of control and whatever is next to the army. it could be another of your armies or some obstacle. they can squeeze through that space. and yes i agree. it is cheating in a way

Make a bran mac born mod to fix it.

Originally posted by BRAN MAC BORN:

Cities and armies have a zone of control-a circle around the army that nothing can pass through-if they try they will trigger a battle. Ai armies just walk straight through without anything happening. This is a major cheat or a stupid bug and it ruins the campaign game.

Originally posted by king kenny:

sometimes if you zoom in you will notice that there is a small gap between the zone of control and whatever is next to the army. it could be another of your armies or some obstacle. they can squeeze through that space. and yes i agree. it is cheating in a way

They can pass through the zoc if they are attacking.

It works the same for the player as well guys.

If there are two enemy stacks, for example, P and Q, and P is in front of Q, you can pass through P's zoc if you give an attack order on Q.

Well I have seen ai armies NOT attacking walk right though and keep going on their merry way.

Originally posted by BRAN MAC BORN:

Well I have seen ai armies NOT attacking walk right though and keep going on their merry way.

Then you have a bug in your game, because it doesn't work like that.

You're probably running mods, and they are messing with the game mechanics.

it happens without mods too.

indeed.

Originally posted by king kenny:

it happens without mods too.

Originally posted by BRAN MAC BORN:

indeed.

You guys are seeing things though, if you think this is a built in mechanic or something for the AI.

The AI cannot just walk through a zoc with a normal move order. They have to be moving to attack a stack or a town to move through an intervening zoc, and it works like this for the player too. You can move through AI zocs too, if you are attacking a stack or town.

You should never move through zones of control period. This is a design flaw. There should be "spotting chances" based on the enemy army unit or General recon level. The higher the level the harder it will be to move through. In Napoleon Total War you have "intercepted" army-that is "caught" and can trigger a battle-you can choose to pass or not. This flaw of passing though zones of control makes ambush mod useless for the player and Ai alike.

Yes this has been an issue since the Rome 2. I believe Shogun 2 was the last game with zone of interception. The zone of control does nothing against any campaign ai after that game as ai does not have fog of war.

they are not moving through zones of control. if you zoom in you can see narrow gaps between 2 army zones of control. the enemy move through that gap. if you are zoomed out the gap cant be seen so it looks like they are moving through the zone of control

Originally posted by king kenny:

they are not moving through zones of control. if you zoom in you can see narrow gaps between 2 army zones of control. the enemy move through that gap. if you are zoomed out the gap cant be seen so it looks like they are moving through the zone of control

Yes, this does happen. But,.you and the AI can move through a zoc if attacking as well.

There is even a tooltip in-game that states this, btw. It has actually worked like this for awhile, even in TWs prior to Attila.