how much of the content is removed from this version to please the stupid steam mods

KuroAnimeGamer995 30 Jun @ 1:09pm

Just the Adult Content

#1

Certified Cunnysseur 1 Jul @ 8:51am

All the PEAK content of the game is missing without the patch.

#2

gergo94 1 Jul @ 11:52am

Even originally the game was supposed to release here without the adult content, but I too wonder if something was further cut form the non-adult part during the delay.

I only have the game from the Denpasoft release. If someone has the Steam release and knows how to take a md5/sha/sha256 sum of the game files you can compare it to mine below from Denpasoft.

If the patching scheme is the typical, then compared to these

'afteradult.xp3' should be missing form the Stream release (and coming from the R18 patch)
the rest of the game files should be the same

$ ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1795376370 Jun 12 04:09 afteradult.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 afteradult.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1913676289 Jun 12 04:09 after.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 after.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 28897105 Jun 12 04:09 bgm.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 bgm.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1766551433 Jun 12 04:09 data.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 data.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1036288 May 1 10:18 emotedriver.dll -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 emotedriver.dll.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 4428288 Jun 12 04:10 nekopara_after.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 nekopara_after.exe.sig drwxr-xr-x 1 user user 1592 Jun 12 04:10 plugin -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 11134670 Jun 12 04:09 sound.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 sound.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 13495 Jun 12 04:09 steam.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 steam.xp3.sig $ md5sum * a32a6b1e255df2442d7877a766a89ad1 afteradult.xp3 2d0055a6ae9727541547d2e4a6b28a58 after.xp3 e0fa4f5032b96419eb4135229f168d44 bgm.xp3 a9100247ccf7cf8a9cf872e6b9e234b9 data.xp3 bb1233d9009fdd7d49370b126920b2da emotedriver.dll 8c24371f0009b41efc6ca0bfea2ab74a nekopara_after.exe b060387116793e54fa65c546e048f94f sound.xp3 4c31a19e915da64eee515205755600da steam.xp3 $ shasum * 65ddff8aa4bacde9a54baf94a8ef8cb73753f1ea afteradult.xp3 a9d688598d780af84d8ab3eac0be867bc413a9d4 after.xp3 8140454b86392392298f399e15eb692d0649358d bgm.xp3 a939adcaa8bfc2288f8201544f21073fc8a965a0 data.xp3 0438e95ebcc7af3b73dca4c8b143c0441684b7c9 emotedriver.dll 7bed206fac681a21447fb21b9c7e74ebdacd62cf nekopara_after.exe 15c27b168cad44352269d6b29df23932993daf51 sound.xp3 b7f59803b1923997c3f0efbba30764c0e67fab0a steam.xp3 $ sha256sum * eb26ff6850096a240af8340ba21c5c3232e90f29fb8191e24b6ce701acae0aa9 afteradult.xp3 3af2205ef3c91e2d5bf46101f3d0af4ad81621b4f4aa4b940b8c796f3bef298a after.xp3 f881bf124ab0c2d9bbb8ecd2dacddbe6a4941a8e3f4e38ad08082bd6528fd20b bgm.xp3 5c8274cad34f82108c03a3d9a23087efb06db1ed350c4c37078bffdd5405ee70 data.xp3 620d03cb15ebb35515de2d1d6a7a953f31543ff7066e8be4f2897dc6a3de9c7f emotedriver.dll b414f4e818b5a5a00516bd9c2e7183d425391e52ebde8edd5ba6b8e46c17aebc nekopara_after.exe c9a76ff6747c79da39c2f0d47f0eb1d0597c531740782dd8339db8c7ec0345f6 sound.xp3 948498ff2796cb283ee9546b39ae6bc5e5d347af2c7f45ff0ddcc8de03d4b9a2 steam.xp3

Last edited by gergo94; 1 Jul @ 11:56am

#3

Certified Cunnysseur 1 Jul @ 12:26pm

Originally posted by gergo94:
Even originally the game was supposed to release here without the adult content, but I too wonder if something was further cut form the non-adult part during the delay.

I only have the game from the Denpasoft release. If someone has the Steam release and knows how to take a md5/sha/sha256 sum of the game files you can compare it to mine below from Denpasoft.
...

I have my doubts about the devs secretly censoring the game EVEN further without making any kind of statement prior - it would just blow up in their faces.

That beings said, if nobody else here helps you out by checking the steam release game files, I will do so myself around the weekend when I get the game here as well (I already have the full version from DLsite so that wouldn't be very helpful)

#4

Inu! [Anime] has NEKOPARA After

1 Jul @ 1:01pm

Originally posted by gergo94:
Even originally the game was supposed to release here without the adult content, but I too wonder if something was further cut form the non-adult part during the delay.

I only have the game from the Denpasoft release. If someone has the Steam release and knows how to take a md5/sha/sha256 sum of the game files you can compare it to mine below from Denpasoft.

If the patching scheme is the typical, then compared to these

'afteradult.xp3' should be missing form the Stream release (and coming from the R18 patch)

the rest of the game files should be the same

$ ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1795376370 Jun 12 04:09 afteradult.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 afteradult.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1913676289 Jun 12 04:09 after.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 after.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 28897105 Jun 12 04:09 bgm.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 bgm.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1766551433 Jun 12 04:09 data.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 data.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1036288 May 1 10:18 emotedriver.dll -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 emotedriver.dll.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 4428288 Jun 12 04:10 nekopara_after.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:10 nekopara_after.exe.sig drwxr-xr-x 1 user user 1592 Jun 12 04:10 plugin -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 11134670 Jun 12 04:09 sound.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 sound.xp3.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 13495 Jun 12 04:09 steam.xp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 212 Jun 12 04:09 steam.xp3.sig $ md5sum * a32a6b1e255df2442d7877a766a89ad1 afteradult.xp3 2d0055a6ae9727541547d2e4a6b28a58 after.xp3 e0fa4f5032b96419eb4135229f168d44 bgm.xp3 a9100247ccf7cf8a9cf872e6b9e234b9 data.xp3 bb1233d9009fdd7d49370b126920b2da emotedriver.dll 8c24371f0009b41efc6ca0bfea2ab74a nekopara_after.exe b060387116793e54fa65c546e048f94f sound.xp3 4c31a19e915da64eee515205755600da steam.xp3 $ shasum * 65ddff8aa4bacde9a54baf94a8ef8cb73753f1ea afteradult.xp3 a9d688598d780af84d8ab3eac0be867bc413a9d4 after.xp3 8140454b86392392298f399e15eb692d0649358d bgm.xp3 a939adcaa8bfc2288f8201544f21073fc8a965a0 data.xp3 0438e95ebcc7af3b73dca4c8b143c0441684b7c9 emotedriver.dll 7bed206fac681a21447fb21b9c7e74ebdacd62cf nekopara_after.exe 15c27b168cad44352269d6b29df23932993daf51 sound.xp3 b7f59803b1923997c3f0efbba30764c0e67fab0a steam.xp3 $ sha256sum * eb26ff6850096a240af8340ba21c5c3232e90f29fb8191e24b6ce701acae0aa9 afteradult.xp3 3af2205ef3c91e2d5bf46101f3d0af4ad81621b4f4aa4b940b8c796f3bef298a after.xp3 f881bf124ab0c2d9bbb8ecd2dacddbe6a4941a8e3f4e38ad08082bd6528fd20b bgm.xp3 5c8274cad34f82108c03a3d9a23087efb06db1ed350c4c37078bffdd5405ee70 data.xp3 620d03cb15ebb35515de2d1d6a7a953f31543ff7066e8be4f2897dc6a3de9c7f emotedriver.dll b414f4e818b5a5a00516bd9c2e7183d425391e52ebde8edd5ba6b8e46c17aebc nekopara_after.exe c9a76ff6747c79da39c2f0d47f0eb1d0597c531740782dd8339db8c7ec0345f6 sound.xp3 948498ff2796cb283ee9546b39ae6bc5e5d347af2c7f45ff0ddcc8de03d4b9a2 steam.xp3

"$ md5sum nekopara_after.exe
6442c1299b389455f7a18ae79f2077d2

$ md5sum afteradult.xp3
a32a6b1e255df2442d7877a766a89ad1"

Since i am lazy i only did this for the main .exe and the patch .xp3 file and only md5sum , since thats my example on why that comparison might not work. The Steam Version of the .exe checks, if steam is running. That check is (obviously) not present in the dlsite/denpasoft version ==> difference in the .exe ==> difference in the hashvalue.

I cant easily explain, why the patch files are different, but im inclined to believe, that those are minor version differences, different timestamps or something simmilar.
==> Why am i inclined to believe that? I replaced the Steam-Patch-Files with the Files from the DL-Site version and those work just fine.

Last edited by Inu! [Anime]; 1 Jul @ 1:11pm

#5

gergo94 1 Jul @ 1:36pm

Originally posted by Inu! Anime:
i only did this for the main .exe and the patch .xp3 file and only md5sum

Using md5sum is perfectly fine but can you please check the

after.xp3, data.xp3, sound.xp3, steam.xp3

files? Those are the ones that would be actually important here :).
(Because if Steam forced some changes to the non-adult content, than those are the ones that will be different)

Last edited by gergo94; 1 Jul @ 1:41pm

#6

Inu! [Anime] has NEKOPARA After

1 Jul @ 1:57pm

Originally posted by gergo94:
Originally posted by Inu! Anime:
i only did this for the main .exe and the patch .xp3 file and only md5sum
Using md5sum is perfectly fine but can you please check the

after.xp3, data.xp3, sound.xp3, steam.xp3

files? Those are the ones that would be actually important here :).
(Because if Steam forced some changes to the non-adult content, than those are the ones that will be different)

$ md5sum *".xp3"
b0429c2b75f4781d7dda37bcd13ad4fa after.xp3
a32a6b1e255df2442d7877a766a89ad1 afteradult.xp3
0339139ea013bdf442bcfe20b448fa67 bgm.xp3
2637834aa5e27648d9db4cfa6cef6da3 data.xp3
136d0137d6e1f5ac72a8269000d7f6d2 sound.xp3
b769ff26c8f192feafb9970af04ad040 steam.xp3

But as some further information, the files still seem to be freely interchangeable (except the executable ofc). I at least tried it with the data.xp3 from dlsite and replaced the steam one and game and save files still work with no issues.

So i guess i still stand by my point, that this will probably not be enough to see if there was more cut content just by filehashes alone

#7

Ahri! 1 Jul @ 2:08pm

Welp. There seems to be differences. But if its just something minor like the mentioned timestamps or something similar or actual cut/altered content can't really be said with just those filehashes in mind.

#8

gergo94 1 Jul @ 2:33pm

Originally posted by Inu! Anime:
this will probably not be enough to see if there was more cut content

Originally posted by Ahri!:
Welp. There seems to be differences. But if its just something minor like the mentioned timestamps or something similar or actual cut/altered content can't really be said with just those filehashes in mind.

"like the mentioned timestamps" - just to clarify, with md5sum, shasum, etc. the file system metadata (like modification date) is not hashed, only the file contents.

Yes, this is no proof yet for further cut content in the Stream release - but it proves that it is at least a different build.

Which is sus enough that now it wouldn't be a complete waste of time form someone with motivation to extract these xp3 archives and diff the contents... Because hell if Steam forced contents to be cut from the non-adult part they should be called out for it.

Last edited by gergo94; 1 Jul @ 2:33pm

#9

sekaipro_chris [developer] 1 Jul @ 7:32pm

Nothing was cut between reviews. The build was updated because Steam achievements weren't set up yet.

Please either enjoy the game or go do something else with your time instead of coming up with nonsensical conspiracy theories. Have a pleasant day.

#10

gergo94 1 Jul @ 7:52pm

Originally posted by sekaipro_chris:
Nothing was cut between reviews. The build was updated because Steam achievements weren't set up yet.

This is nice to hear. Thank you so much! 🎉

#11

fllthdcrb 2 Jul @ 12:48am

Originally posted by gergo94:
If someone has the Steam release and knows how to take a md5/sha/sha256 sum of the game files you can compare it to mine below from Denpasoft.

I'm afraid it's not that simple. The Steam versions of these files are likely to be different even if no content has been cut, simply due to differences in how Steam works. I think the text encoding is different, too (e.g. standalone version might use Windows-932, while the Steam version uses UTF-8). You can only really detect differences that matter by detailed examination of the content, e.g. by playing the different versions and comparing the text and dialogue, or by picking apart the scripts, etc.

Originally posted by sekaipro_chris:
Please either enjoy the game or go do something else with your time instead of coming up with nonsensical conspiracy theories. Have a pleasant day.

I'd hardly call it nonsensical. Given Steam's history with this type of content, and especially considering one of the themes in After, it was perfectly reasonable to wonder whether they had forced further cuts.

In fact, after the delay announcement and then the full version being released with the censored still being TBA, I was a little surprised it was being released here after all. But if it really was just a technical deficiency, that makes sense, too.

#12

Xhoas 2 Jul @ 6:16am

Originally posted by sekaipro_chris:
Nothing was cut between reviews. The build was updated because Steam achievements weren't set up yet.

Please either enjoy the game or go do something else with your time instead of coming up with nonsensical conspiracy theories. Have a pleasant day.

Well, I think I will take your own advice and "do something else" instead of playing your games...

Last edited by Xhoas; 2 Jul @ 6:18am

#13

Inu! [Anime] has NEKOPARA After

2 Jul @ 9:04am

Originally posted by gergo94:
Originally posted by Inu! Anime:
this will probably not be enough to see if there was more cut content
Originally posted by Ahri!:
Welp. There seems to be differences. But if its just something minor like the mentioned timestamps or something similar or actual cut/altered content can't really be said with just those filehashes in mind.

"like the mentioned timestamps" - just to clarify, with md5sum, shasum, etc. the file system metadata (like modification date) is not hashed, only the file contents.

Yeah. I probably expresed that the wrong way. I was trying to refer to really small adjustments in file contents,

#14

Nwii 3 Jul @ 11:39am

Originally posted by Xhoas:
Originally posted by sekaipro_chris:
Nothing was cut between reviews. The build was updated because Steam achievements weren't set up yet.

Please either enjoy the game or go do something else with your time instead of coming up with nonsensical conspiracy theories. Have a pleasant day.
Well, I think I will take your own advice and "do something else" instead of playing your games...

Aww…you’ll miss the “inc*st is winc*est” route over a comment confirming no cut content…

Shigure will be sad 😔

#15

NEKOPARA After

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