because the dev is a greedy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that i thought was an ok guy, clearly using the VETRANS as an excuse to try and make money like steam should take this ♥♥♥♥ down i have tried so many times to report this guy and nothing ever gets done.

$60,000 spent, $1500 income, $1400 in refunds. I made $100. I'm sorry you have Cancer, but this is not the forum for that. My Programmer scammed me, his LinkedIn clearly reflects that. Sorry you had a bad time, trust and believe I did too.

Originally posted by BillyBobBonner:

$60,000 spent, $1500 income, $1400 in refunds. I made $100. I'm sorry you have Cancer, but this is not the forum for that. My Programmer scammed me, his LinkedIn clearly reflects that. Sorry you had a bad time, trust and believe I did too.

Remove this for sale from Steam. It is not hard even if you falsely claim it is. Its clear this is still up with those names attached to prove a point. But no one cares that you are still throwing a tantrum after all these years. What you are doing right now is 100% illegal. False advertising remains a real thing regardless of the fact that no one is buying this. You won't get a response from me again. Remove this from steam.

Originally posted by FarawayPaper:

Originally posted by BillyBobBonner:

$60,000 spent, $1500 income, $1400 in refunds. I made $100. I'm sorry you have Cancer, but this is not the forum for that. My Programmer scammed me, his LinkedIn clearly reflects that. Sorry you had a bad time, trust and believe I did too.

Remove this for sale from Steam. It is not hard even if you falsely claim it is. Its clear this is still up with those names attached to prove a point. But no one cares that you are still throwing a tantrum after all these years. What you are doing right now is 100% illegal. False advertising remains a real thing regardless of the fact that no one is buying this. You won't get a response from me again. Remove this from steam.

Sounds like you could use some Apples in your diet. The more the merrier.

LOL, he doesn't even deny that he's a scammer. And he's still blaming others for his own failures. I bet that "programmer" never even existed.

Originally posted by Jerry:

LOL, he doesn't even deny that he's a scammer. And he's still blaming others for his own failures. I bet that "programmer" never even existed.

Originally posted by BillyBobBonner:

$60,000 spent, $1500 income, $1400 in refunds. I made $100. I'm sorry you have Cancer, but this is not the forum for that. My Programmer scammed me, his LinkedIn clearly reflects that. Sorry you had a bad time, trust and believe I did too.

Originally posted by SaltyAF:

Originally posted by Jerry:

LOL, he doesn't even deny that he's a scammer. And he's still blaming others for his own failures. I bet that "programmer" never even existed.

Originally posted by BillyBobBonner:

$60,000 spent, $1500 income, $1400 in refunds. I made $100. I'm sorry you have Cancer, but this is not the forum for that. My Programmer scammed me, his LinkedIn clearly reflects that. Sorry you had a bad time, trust and believe I did too.

Salty, you haven't released an update in going on if not surpassing 3 years now. Even still, that's a hard claim to make that this game 'only made 100$ in profit" Despite it still being up for sale. I've tried to be patient and all, but even as one of the veterans you gave a free key to? It's hard to have faith in someone that has no progress to show in all this time, from what i've seen the only reason you still keep this forum open is to flamebait people.

All I keep seeing on here is "I'm really sorry guys" and flamebaiting people that get annoyed this 'game' is still up for sale. A game you're charging people 25 dollars for that hasn't been playable in any shape or form in all the 5 years it's been 'released' on steam. Lamenting it's someone else's fault doesn't excuse that, if anything it shows that you recognize this game is unplayable, has been for a long period of time and are still willing to charge people for a game that hasn't been playable in it's entire 5 year run on Steam.

He's just a typical scammer. And proves the saying that "the world needs ditch diggers too." Because this guy sure isn't a game developer.

Go play something else, clearly this isn't functional and I got nothing for my investment. Keep crying, that'll fix ABD for sure.

Originally posted by SaltyAF:

Go play something else, clearly this isn't functional and I got nothing for my investment. Keep crying, that'll fix ABD for sure.

It's not crying that the game is ♥♥♥♥, we all know it's ♥♥♥♥, it's that it's still on sale and hasn't been removed yet despite being a blatantly broken game that he clearly refuses to take down..

Originally posted by Two Armed Bandit:

Originally posted by SaltyAF:

Go play something else, clearly this isn't functional and I got nothing for my investment. Keep crying, that'll fix ABD for sure.

It's not crying that the game is ♥♥♥♥, we all know it's ♥♥♥♥, it's that it's still on sale and hasn't been removed yet despite being a blatantly broken game that he clearly refuses to take down..

Once its on Steam, its on there forever.

Originally posted by SaltyAF:

Originally posted by Two Armed Bandit:

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Once its on Steam, its on there forever.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/batman-arkham-knight-for-pc-pulled-from-steam-and-retailers-due-to-bugs/

https://www.pcgamer.com/10-reasons-games-disappear-from-steam/

https://steamhost.cn/curator/6868337-Broken-and-Removed-Games/

Need I give more examples?

Originally posted by Two Armed Bandit:

Originally posted by SaltyAF:

Once its on Steam, its on there forever.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/batman-arkham-knight-for-pc-pulled-from-steam-and-retailers-due-to-bugs/

https://www.pcgamer.com/10-reasons-games-disappear-from-steam/

https://steamhost.cn/curator/6868337-Broken-and-Removed-Games/

Need I give more examples?

You're wasting your time. Either I'll come back around and finish this game with reliable programmers, or I won't. Either way, I'm busy right now.

I know I am kinda late to the party but I just stumbled over this product so I will get into this discussion because it literally hurts what kind of bullsh*t is thrown around on here in the forums or the reviews...

Originally posted by Two Armed Bandit:

Originally posted by SaltyAF:

Once its on Steam, its on there forever.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/batman-arkham-knight-for-pc-pulled-from-steam-and-retailers-due-to-bugs/

https://www.pcgamer.com/10-reasons-games-disappear-from-steam/

https://steamhost.cn/curator/6868337-Broken-and-Removed-Games/

Need I give more examples?

In fact both yours and the developers statement are correct.
If a developer paid the fee or got through Greenlight with his product it stays here until the contract between the developer / publisher and Valve gets lifted for what ever reason. Such reasons can be:

1. The publisher says they want to terminate the product
   
2. Licences are running out
   
3. The product seemingly breaks any laws
   
4. Valve decides that the content is nothing they want to see on Steam

"Broken games" are not always broken games. If a game is malfunctioning but still running it is just a bad / unfinished product. However if the product gets reported the only thing that happens is basically Valve contacting the developers and talking about their plans on that game. As long as the devloper does not say otherwise Valve implies that there is still developement or at least plans of developments ongoing so there is no reason to tear it down. No one is FORCED to buy anything here on Steam. You are entirely free to negatively review the product and tell your friends to boycott it until it is finished - or entirely if you wish that way.

The "Early Access" tag - even if it is there for about five years - gives out right away that this is an unfinished product. I mean it literally stands that in the description...

Early Access Game

Get instant access and start playing; get involved with this game as it develops.
Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development. Learn more

If you folks buy them you silently agree to the fact that you are buying something that is not finished and even may not be finished at all. So in fact you should not have like ANY right to complain about this fact at all.

Back to the removal of games...
If the developer has the wish to finish this product some day they have all rights to keep it up for further funding. Again no one is forced to buy a product. Most developers handle it like WB did with Arkham Knight when they pulled it because of a lot of memory leaks and other performance issues to bring it back up when it is finished. Both strategies are totally legit.

No publisher is forced to act on spoiled kids not understanding how development or marketing works. Game development either from scratch or with working open source game engines such as Unity or Unreal and even with RPG Maker or other templating tools is a hard and exhausting task to do. No matter if its you alone or a collaboration or even a business. And spoiled kids crying over their stupidity that they bought an unfinished product even though there was a fat blue shiny box slapping it in their faces are not helping at all.

So yeah. You want this product to be taken down? Then boycott it and prevent others from buying it. You still want to support it? Good then do it the other way around. Either way this product has all rights to stay here on Steam. It obviously stands that it is unfinished and reviews are telling that too so everyone who buys it at this state does that either for support or collection issues and none of you people are in the positions to decide what is allowed on Steam or not.

For further information about the "Early Access"-state read the following article; especially the "Rules"-paragraph...
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess

Originally posted by SaltyAF:

Originally posted by Two Armed Bandit:

It's not crying that the game is ♥♥♥♥, we all know it's ♥♥♥♥, it's that it's still on sale and hasn't been removed yet despite being a blatantly broken game that he clearly refuses to take down..

Once its on Steam, its on there forever.

This is completely untrue. Games are removed from steam every week, for all kinds of reasons. A vaporware game being abandoned, is actually a very common reason. No excuse other than malice at this point to leave it up.