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One Old Soldier 10 Sep, 2018 @ 1:35am
With respects, why is this still being sold?
Title, it seems the option to purchase this title is still available, despite the game having been unavailable for play for over 2 years now. Even in the very (VERY) brief period the servers were online at the original design you had the title was unplayable.

I get wanting to offer people a chance to support developers showing progress but the news here hasn't been updated in over a year now, there is no actvity on the discussion board here to suggest any activity in as long and the website listed is unavailable.

I got a free copy as part of the Vet. program so I'm not out any money but one has to admit this feels kind've awkward no matter how it's approached.
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Originally posted by Crayon Delicatessen:
I agree, Ron. Once we publish on Steam, it's there; sort of like a haunting history of a cuckold video that surfaced with your last name on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Of the 60,000 dollar's I spent on "developers" and "programmers" who ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me down relentlessly in the Unity 3D Development Community, I honestly got very little. I think I paid for smoke breaks and small talk, even my basic C# programming in Unity after the failure of ABD surpassed these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. In this world though, we're faced with impending character defamation and LLC violations, not to mention the DMCA FUBAR I cauased on myself... Paid for that one dearly, most of my nest egg, not that ABD wasn't everything I put away for my lifetime...........

I'm so sorry everyone, this whole thing still kills me even today. If I were to refund every single person who purchased the game, I think I would owe $1,200 in total. The next time I come into some cash I'm going to make that happen, but even then, it's still going to be a "♥♥♥♥ you ♥♥♥♥♥♥" kind of interaction... The internet and the industry as a whole is pretty gross, I spent a lot of money and time and effort and love into my work and it ended up being nothing but manipulated and expolited monitarily. I find the state of the industry a really weird place, which I have ultimately left and abandoned after my interactions here on Steam. I play games still here, but very seldomly. I'm very sad at how the six*6* programmers I hired betrayed me, costing everyone time and energy and effort and worry and a "wtf" notion.... This sucks, on of the most ridiculous things that ever happend was my programmer ramped up the Amazon Server to $450 a month... So when we "launched" on steam, that was $450 a month for a server cloud system that didn't work.... He stretched this on for five months, that's a bit of money folks. Sucks.

I tried, I had experience in my work with many shoes afoot. I did my best, I showered folks in cash and it resulted in nothing. I had a distinct vision that I've almost coded myself darnit, these folks robbed me and it's horribly depressing. Statistically, I guess, people like me have to get screwed over like this and reach a "worst game ever published" category. A partially functioning main menu doesn't qualify as a game, wow, 60,000 dollars, sixty-thousand...............ffs
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RonBrrgundyTTV 10 Sep, 2018 @ 7:58am 
yea i purchased a copy to support the dev but he crapped out on us i think, i mean its one thing to fail a FPS open world survival game its completly another thing to not even be able to get an RTS with survival aspects going like really da heck, now i cant even get a refund cus i speant 2 hours hoping the game would load. I am not at all impressed with this developer and i really do wish for a refund. i agree with OP take it down why is it even on sale when it doesnt even work not one bit?? who cares about a refund it should even be on the store to be refunded in the first place I think this developer personally should be charged with fraud. i havent seen any other game on steam thats been shutdown and doesnt work even still availible for purchase besides this one.
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Crayon Delicatessen  [developer] 11 Sep, 2018 @ 3:32am 
I agree, Ron. Once we publish on Steam, it's there; sort of like a haunting history of a cuckold video that surfaced with your last name on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Of the 60,000 dollar's I spent on "developers" and "programmers" who ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me down relentlessly in the Unity 3D Development Community, I honestly got very little. I think I paid for smoke breaks and small talk, even my basic C# programming in Unity after the failure of ABD surpassed these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. In this world though, we're faced with impending character defamation and LLC violations, not to mention the DMCA FUBAR I cauased on myself... Paid for that one dearly, most of my nest egg, not that ABD wasn't everything I put away for my lifetime...........

I'm so sorry everyone, this whole thing still kills me even today. If I were to refund every single person who purchased the game, I think I would owe $1,200 in total. The next time I come into some cash I'm going to make that happen, but even then, it's still going to be a "♥♥♥♥ you ♥♥♥♥♥♥" kind of interaction... The internet and the industry as a whole is pretty gross, I spent a lot of money and time and effort and love into my work and it ended up being nothing but manipulated and expolited monitarily. I find the state of the industry a really weird place, which I have ultimately left and abandoned after my interactions here on Steam. I play games still here, but very seldomly. I'm very sad at how the six*6* programmers I hired betrayed me, costing everyone time and energy and effort and worry and a "wtf" notion.... This sucks, on of the most ridiculous things that ever happend was my programmer ramped up the Amazon Server to $450 a month... So when we "launched" on steam, that was $450 a month for a server cloud system that didn't work.... He stretched this on for five months, that's a bit of money folks. Sucks.

I tried, I had experience in my work with many shoes afoot. I did my best, I showered folks in cash and it resulted in nothing. I had a distinct vision that I've almost coded myself darnit, these folks robbed me and it's horribly depressing. Statistically, I guess, people like me have to get screwed over like this and reach a "worst game ever published" category. A partially functioning main menu doesn't qualify as a game, wow, 60,000 dollars, sixty-thousand...............ffs
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One Old Soldier 11 Sep, 2018 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by SaltyAF:
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I feel for folks getting shafted when they have a genuine idea with merit (such as this title), the problem remains that you still have the game up on steam. Even if you don't refund everyone, there could still be some saps that buy into this game not paying attention and that seems about as wrong as the dirtbags whom wronged you.

Either ramp the price up absurdly high to deter people from buying (if the option to remove it from steam isn't available) or remove the option to purchase from the store and I'd be quite content. I can't speak for why you haven't gone after any of your former staff for a clearly gross misappropriation of funds if what you say is true and they did nothing and but were still paid for it.

Regardless keeping this title up (when countless other titles have quietly removed purchase quietly when the product's servers went offline for instance) seems like ashes in one's mouth. If you're truly apologetic (and I get that impression, most scam-artist type devs. wouldn't be offering free keys to anyone), nothing more needs to be done. Pin this up in the discussions if you like where future readers can see it for the apology it is and leave it at that. Even Steam-charts notes a 'peak' player base of less than 20 people so it's not like THAT many people will feel cheated out of their hard-earned $$$. Offer refunds to those who come forward, but giving in to every demand an angry crowd will make often only makes matters worse.
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RonBrrgundyTTV 14 Sep, 2018 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Rixoli:
Originally posted by SaltyAF:
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I feel for folks getting shafted when they have a genuine idea with merit (such as this title), the problem remains that you still have the game up on steam. Even if you don't refund everyone, there could still be some saps that buy into this game not paying attention and that seems about as wrong as the dirtbags whom wronged you.

Either ramp the price up absurdly high to deter people from buying (if the option to remove it from steam isn't available) or remove the option to purchase from the store and I'd be quite content. I can't speak for why you haven't gone after any of your former staff for a clearly gross misappropriation of funds if what you say is true and they did nothing and but were still paid for it.

Regardless keeping this title up (when countless other titles have quietly removed purchase quietly when the product's servers went offline for instance) seems like ashes in one's mouth. If you're truly apologetic (and I get that impression, most scam-artist type devs. wouldn't be offering free keys to anyone), nothing more needs to be done. Pin this up in the discussions if you like where future readers can see it for the apology it is and leave it at that. Even Steam-charts notes a 'peak' player base of less than 20 people so it's not like THAT many people will feel cheated out of their hard-earned $$$. Offer refunds to those who come forward, but giving in to every demand an angry crowd will make often only makes matters worse.
^^ this and why not just make the game and its code availible to th ecommunity?? maybe togehter with OUR own time we can make ABD work again. I think this game had alot of potenital ALOT i loved the idea of customizable little villagers that turn into whatever weapon or tool i gave them, BUT i think if you go free to play and make like 500-1000 different shirts pants skins armour it could still be worth it, and i aggree if these people did that too you why not go after them liek i dont get it, there wasnt even a working game menu and you have everyone here behind you if what you say is true to say and aggree with you that the game never worked and not ALLLL due to your fault, i really think if you make a ♥♥♥♥ ton of cool clothing weapon and armour skins even cool building skins, that this game could still be good in a f2p platform, just might have to run your own server or servers with your own machines and moniter and admin them thats all, plenty of people will help you if what you say is TRUE, BUT as a past buisness owener i can tell you i do have a little skeptacism towards you as to why nothing has been done to them and why the game is still for sale. when i owned my restraunt if my employees didnt do there job they got fired plain and simple and i hired someone else easy peasy.
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earlyaccesscontrol 20 Nov, 2018 @ 2:38am 
Originally posted by SaltyAF:
I agree, Ron. Once we publish on Steam, it's there; sort of like a haunting history of a cuckold video that surfaced with your last name on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Of the 60,000 dollar's I spent on "developers" and "programmers" who ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me down relentlessly in the Unity 3D Development Community, I honestly got very little. I think I paid for smoke breaks and small talk, even my basic C# programming in Unity after the failure of ABD surpassed these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. In this world though, we're faced with impending character defamation and LLC violations, not to mention the DMCA FUBAR I cauased on myself... Paid for that one dearly, most of my nest egg, not that ABD wasn't everything I put away for my lifetime...........

I'm so sorry everyone, this whole thing still kills me even today. If I were to refund every single person who purchased the game, I think I would owe $1,200 in total. The next time I come into some cash I'm going to make that happen, but even then, it's still going to be a "♥♥♥♥ you ♥♥♥♥♥♥" kind of interaction... The internet and the industry as a whole is pretty gross, I spent a lot of money and time and effort and love into my work and it ended up being nothing but manipulated and expolited monitarily. I find the state of the industry a really weird place, which I have ultimately left and abandoned after my interactions here on Steam. I play games still here, but very seldomly. I'm very sad at how the six*6* programmers I hired betrayed me, costing everyone time and energy and effort and worry and a "wtf" notion.... This sucks, on of the most ridiculous things that ever happend was my programmer ramped up the Amazon Server to $450 a month... So when we "launched" on steam, that was $450 a month for a server cloud system that didn't work.... He stretched this on for five months, that's a bit of money folks. Sucks.

I tried, I had experience in my work with many shoes afoot. I did my best, I showered folks in cash and it resulted in nothing. I had a distinct vision that I've almost coded myself darnit, these folks robbed me and it's horribly depressing. Statistically, I guess, people like me have to get screwed over like this and reach a "worst game ever published" category. A partially functioning main menu doesn't qualify as a game, wow, 60,000 dollars, sixty-thousand...............ffs

Hey I know developers who have gotten their purchase button removed from their steam pages. Any reason why you guys have not done this?

It would really go a long way for people who buy and play EA titles if you or someone posted an offical statement and attached it to the store page as well.
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