Originally posted by HaikenEdge:

I see all these complaints about STR and STA builds being weak, that they need AGI to function, which makes me wonder... just how much STR and STA does an AGI-focused build even really need? Can you say beat the game with a, say, 1/20/1 build, for example?

STA is more important. 1/20/1 - will not work but 1/20/10 can ;)

Originally posted by Dartius:

Originally posted by HaikenEdge:

I see all these complaints about STR and STA builds being weak, that they need AGI to function, which makes me wonder... just how much STR and STA does an AGI-focused build even really need? Can you say beat the game with a, say, 1/20/1 build, for example?

STA is more important. 1/20/1 - will not work but 1/20/10 can ;)

I'm not asking you. You're a developer, and your advertising for the product has been false and untrustworthy, so anything you say will be considered the same. I'm asking players who have actually played the game and have tried to optimize as much as possible.

Originally posted by HaikenEdge:

You're a developer, and your advertising for the product has been false and untrustworthy,

What did we advertise that could be considered as a false?

Originally posted by Lazy Bear Games:

Originally posted by HaikenEdge:

You're a developer, and your advertising for the product has been false and untrustworthy,

What did we advertise that could be considered as a false?

That you could play any of the attributes on its own, when in reality, you either play AGI on it's own, or you play STR or STA with AGI.

Originally posted by HaikenEdge:

Originally posted by Lazy Bear Games:

What did we advertise that could be considered as a false?

That you could play any of the attributes on its own, when in reality, you either play AGI on it's own, or you play STR or STA with AGI.

We never told anybody that you can build a 20-2-2 build and it will be viable.

We said that you can make a STR or STA-base build. That doesn't mean you can completely ignore other stats.

By the way, you can't play AGI on its own. You need at least some stamina.

Skip Attacks + Dodge + Crossroads + Unstoppable seem to work well enough without Stamina. You don't really need Armor or Energy when you rarely get hit, use no active attacks and spend all your turns recovering energy.

I am not exactly sure that 1/20/10 works. I have 4/16/10 and I can't beat up Hulk Hogan (or whatever his name is in the game). My build is fine. I am focused on Kick attacks - I have that skill where it makes em more powerful, all the good dodge skills and I can't beat Hogan for third time. I used the Blue potion and tried with 3/18/10 and I still failed. Yeah I always leave him at really low amount of hp but it doesnt matter, I still lost so... yeah. My point is - if I strugle with 4/16/10 now, at Hogan, how I am supposed to beat the next 2 fighters who are agility based. Even so, the stats reduction each day are HUGE. I barely manage to lvl up them, even with the bonus from being in love with my GF...

I haven't tried everything yet but 4/20/10 was pretty effective while I was struggling a bit with 1/19/10.

I think that it's a good ratio 20/10/4, 20 being your main status, 10 your secondary and 4 your third, while if Stamina isn't your main status it should bethe secondary (I'm gonna try a Str/Agi build later but I don't think it'll work at all)

i tried training my agi real high before i got my other stats up but i managed to get them at a fair level...

10str, 21agi, 12sta
lowkick, wind flow dodge, cutthroat, skip attacks, flip kick, fast-paced stance

pretty much cant lose. kulk kogan was the hardest fight tbh.

i didnt like not having the other stats up.

Originally posted by キリト:

I barely manage to lvl up them, even with the bonus from being in love with my GF...

i knew i should have paid attention to that thing on the porch

No issue to beat Hulk with 4/16/8, so obviously using the right skill for a given build is way more important than raw stats.. OP should stop taking newbies posts as gospel.

My Tiger build was 2/21/8 the first time I finished the game with it. I just reloaded it to check my skills and decided to train up another level of Agi to finish again with 2/22+1/8. Skills were Unstoppable, Wind Flow Dodge, Cutthroat, Cobra Strike, and Crossroads, and my bro didn't hit me once. ^_^

I'd tried training my Strength up to 4, but I found the Energy costs weren't worth the minuscule damage gain.

The stats aren't so much important to this or that as much as they are choices. Here's how I'd sum it up for an Agi character.

Str gives you more damage per hit but costs you more energy. If you have a way to keep from running out of energy, you can kill someone quick by getting more strength.

I'd say Str isn't very good. The damage from counter-attacks doesn't seem to be boosted at all by your Str, only the damage the attack would have dealt to you. It even increases the energy cost of dodging, which can be as low as 0/0.5 with minimal Str. I also doubt it increases the damage of Cobra Strike's debuff component.

Agi gives you more accuracy, which only matters against other Agi fighters, but it's very important in those matchups. More importantly, it gives you dodge which both keeps you alive and does damage.

Agi is the best stat (of course) because you'll die without it.

Sta gives you more regen (only when resting) and more HP.

Sta is an okay stat. The energy regen isn't a big factor because you won't be resting much without Skip Attacks. The HP is a big deal though as without it you're stuck at around 80-100 max.

A build like 1-16-8 is way more than enough to beat the game actually, cause you know, AGI is OP.
You don't even need a bit of strengh, damages are enough with that much agi.

You should go with 1 strength so your dodges cost 0 stamina and beef stamina and agility up since going agility means every single fight turns into a prolonged endurance match anyway.
Kicks scale terribly with strength.

Playing as a juicy 2-hit target as the endurance build that path of the tiger is by going full agility with no stamina is not a good time no matter how much everyone here insists on how "overpowered" agility is.

Also path of the bear is pretty freaking strong. It has probably the strongest endgame with its many round 1 KOs as long as you don't go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and neglect everything else in favor of strength because "it's a strength build".
All paths with the exception of tiger should strive for more or less balanced stats.