Hello, is there a way to get ornament form Lares without cheats and mods? I already went to water mages on my own with ornamets from stone circles, but there is no any dialogue options there available, and Lares does not give me his ornament because the leading to water mages option dissapeared.

I heard something that water mages send you to Lares to retrieve his piece if you visit them first, but there are no dialogues optons at all, I dont even have dialogue to open the small teleport door and cant use teleports in Khorinis.