El can't be modded directly.

The ceremonies of the Voice of El aren't actually rituals, despite the game's UI appearing to treat them similarly. They are instead a (mostly-)separate mechanism which, as Xelos said, can't be modded.

The closest option I see for you would be to create a newritpow, put your new rituals in it, and give your bishops, etc, access to that new power in addition to the normal ceremonies of El.

By the way, if you haven't yet looked through my extraction of the ritual data and its accompanying notes, you may find that it answers many of your questions preemptively. You can find it in this topic: Extracted from coe4.exe: Ritual data.

Oh that's very helpful, thank you so much for extracting and publishing it. Now if they will just sticky the thread for people like me to easily find it

Some observations after messing around with El rituals. Hope this will help others trying to mess with this class

It seems you can't just add another ritual path to the bishop, it completely ignores it.

selectmonster "Bishop"
power 48 1

doesn't do anything

So instead I added the new power to the Paladins

selectmonster "Paladin"
power 48 1

worked just fine for my new ritual path 48.


Another observation, if you use clearspec command on the bishop, the new power you add does work, but then you lose all the default El rituals, which is not what I want.

You can only as far as I know do something like this for El and all others (x for placeholder values, y for level):

newritpow

newritual "My new ritual"
level y
cost x x
cost x x
terr x
summoning # The ritual will summon the monsters specified in a random string.
addstring "x"
nomonreq
addstring "(-)x"
addstring "(-)x"
descr "This ritual does stuff with plenty of other stuff and such wonders of modding"

newritual "My new ritual"
level y+1
cost x x
cost x x
terr x
summoning # The ritual will summon the monsters specified in a random string.
addstring "x"
nomonreq
addstring "(-)x"
addstring "(-)x"
descr "This ritual does stuff with plenty of other stuff and such wonders of modding"

selectmonster "Bishop"
power 0 y

selectmonster "Cardinal"
power 0 y+1

I could be mistaken but this is basically just directly adding non specific school rituals in this ritpow "block" to whatever units you wish

This works for other units, doesn't work for El, that's why I was having so much trouble, as the same set of ritual commands worked when adding to paladin, but did not work when adding to bishop.

That's what I was trying to say in my post earlier, your template new ritual path is the same as how I set it up, except I gave the new ritual power a path number 48: newritpow 48

I've also tried just using the default newritpow with no number, defaulting the ritual number to 0, it also did not work with El's bishop.

Originally posted by Playforfun:

This works for other units, doesn't work for El, that's why I was having so much trouble, as the same set of ritual commands worked when adding to paladin, but did not work when adding to bishop.

Did you try by declaring newritpow at the beggining and then power 0 1 for level 1? Those details are what makes the difference because it is default current newritpow rituals block, but again I might be mistaken

see edit above. sorry I wasn't clear before.

Oh that sucks so yeah you're always stuck with the copystats gimmick then. Thank you for your clarification and sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you for trying to help, it's definately appreciate it. Your comments also would clear up a lot of confusion for others due to me not being clear, so no inconvenience at all!

I've been away from CoE for a while so things aren't exactly fresh in my mind, but...
Would it be feasible to recreate El's existing powers using conventional ritual modding, possibly with cunningly-triggered events to help? On the face of it the hardest thing seems to be the breaking of the seals, but it should be possible. The actual breaking process itself is just a ritual that increments a variable, coupled with events that fire depending on the value of said variable. The associated spawning might be tricky to figure out exact probabilities and numbers, but again should be possible.
Is there anything in El's vanilla power-set that straight-up can't be done using either rituals or events? If not, one could simply remove the vanilla powers from the units completely, or if need be replace the units themselves with slightly-differently-named copies (invisible spaces in the name would work), and give them a customized recreation of the powers.

Yea, definately thought about that. I've not done any event modding so can't say if it's possible or not to recreate breaking the seals. Also, there is the blessing system and incure divine favor system that's probably not recreatable.

My current solution is just giving the new ritual powers to a different unit of the El, I picked paladin since there's 3 tiers of the unit, matches well with 3 levels of power. I could also pick the saint, but then I'd have to remake the saint to not have the stupid trait and make 2 more tiers of the unit.