The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd

The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd

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Antoids 4 May, 2017 @ 1:32am
Win the optional fight in the second plane's star door? [Character Spoilers]
Outside Grancel Castle, there's a door requiring Julia and Mueller which involves a boss fight as past Julia vs. past Mueller. Any suggestions on how to tackle this one? In the Japanese version you could patiently heal until you got enough CP to S-Break repeatedly, but this version doesn't give you EP Charges, so that's not viable. I don't think Saint + Clock Up EX gives you quite enough DPS, either.
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HunterRassius 4 May, 2017 @ 1:53am 
The NG Nightmare guys are slowly making their way through but I, myself at least, am not there yet. Sounds like you lack Slyphen Guard though. When you're "dueling" in a Trails game it's literally one of the best ways to mitigate damage. If you can gather enough Time quartz where you're at Clock Down will put you in a very nice position if you combine it with that Clock Up EX.

Any further tips will have to wait till I get their myself sorry.
Eppy37 4 May, 2017 @ 1:58am 
unfortunately, this isn't the kind of battle you can prepare for beforehand since it takes place in a past recollection. in addition, Julia has that weird orbment setup similar to SC chapter 3.

I managed to get 3/4 of the way there on normal, but ran out of healing.
Last edited by Eppy37; 4 May, 2017 @ 1:59am
Hat8 4 May, 2017 @ 2:04am 
Beat it on hard.

Start off with your S-Craft, take damage, heal, do S-Craft again. Used a few items and normal attacks to save mana.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/816685539413766285/F374D4BB2F62383346CC0D0775DB55D3F70C4FF8/

Bit close but the turn order is pretty predictable.
Saga Saga 4 May, 2017 @ 2:10am 
I figured it wasn't a winnable fight. I had a similar experience to Eppy, got him down to about a quarter health, but just ran out of EP.

Does anything change if you win?
Hat8 4 May, 2017 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by Saga Saga:
I figured it wasn't a winnable fight. I had a similar experience to Eppy, got him down to about a quarter health, but just ran out of EP.

Does anything change if you win?

I quit out after losing the first time so I don't know what ya get if you fail.

Reward was 3000 mira, some item and a happy ending.
Eppy37 4 May, 2017 @ 2:22am 
Sounds like the same as losing the fight, 3000 mira, Septium Vein, and a good ending.
Talithmara 4 May, 2017 @ 4:56am 
I may have only been playing on Normal (I always play Normal first and then work my way up; I've heard the "lol casual scrub" jab thousands of times - save yourself the keystrokes) but I came really close. I mean REALLY close. We both had like 100 HP left, but then Mueller got a lucky consecutive turn. Julia would have won if that didn't happen.

I think that healing to build CP may not be the most efficient method. It takes several Tearals (40 EP) between S Crafts. (And don't even bother with Teara, since it's half the EP for less than half the healing - waste of EP for such a tight battle) It could be worth trying to cast a Blue Ascension in there, somewhere. It's 80 EP for roughly 1800 damage versus 40 x however many uses for roughly 2700. I didn't bother trying to cast any of her other attack spells, since I felt the EP cost would simply be far too much.

Still, I can't imagine that I'd have come nearly as close on Nightmare. *shrug*
Sewer56 4 May, 2017 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by HunterRassius:
The NG Nightmare guys are slowly making their way through but I, myself at least, am not there yet. Sounds like you lack Slyphen Guard though. When you're "dueling" in a Trails game it's literally one of the best ways to mitigate damage. If you can gather enough Time quartz where you're at Clock Down will put you in a very nice position if you combine it with that Clock Up EX.

Any further tips will have to wait till I get their myself sorry.
Speaking on behalf of the NG Nightmare guys, I'll be playing again in around 4 hours after I return from school, I should be able to get there today, so I might be of help :).

NG Nightmare is fun, honestly, though after I'm done I might try introducing an even worse difficulty, just for fun ;).
Last edited by Sewer56; 4 May, 2017 @ 5:05am
Lotex 4 May, 2017 @ 6:19am 
I play on normal and I have no idea how this should be possible without good rng aka Mueller misses a few of his attacks AND doesn't excessively use his S-Craft. I can bring him down to around 500-1000, but then he gets his attack and I'm one S-Craft or maybe 1 or 2 heals short of beating him. I'll try again and try if the imported save items will carry over to this battle, but I doubt it. You just don't deal enough damage with regular attack, roughly around 300 while he deals at least quadruple the damage.
DDR 4 May, 2017 @ 6:49am 
It is entirely possible without Mueller missing. Personally beat him with more than 6500HP remaining.

Use your S-Craft, and keep healing while basic-attacking. Try to only use Tearal, and only when you need 6500HP or more, because of limited EP. Try to keep above 5500HP whenever it's been a while since he used Enlightened Domination (and definitely before using your S-Craft). Whenever you reach 100CP, just blow your S-Craft.

...but there is no additional reward for beating him, other than the change in a few lines of dialogue afterwards.
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Lotex 4 May, 2017 @ 6:53am 
Probably, but I don't see how it should be possible for me. I tried it again a few minutes ago, this time he actually missed once but in the end I still lost. I have no idea how long it takes him to build up enough cp for his S-Craft and if he uses it at 100 or 200. If the heal items would heal as much as Tareal did it would be a different story, but 2k is lousy.
Antoids 4 May, 2017 @ 9:32am 
Thanks for the help, everyone! One thing to note is that he uses blade dance (the one that deals about 5k damage) every 5th action. So, he'll go S-Break, Attack, Attack, Attack, Blade Dance, Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack, Blade Dance, etc. If you use Mirage on those turns I think it's better than eating the damage. Doing so, I finished with 11 EP and two attacks' worth of HP, and I didn't even get initiative this time! I think if you get initiative it should be pretty easy.

Of note, he did get two turns leading into his final Blade Dance (his last action), so be careful, there. Also, you should always S-Break after your turn, in which you should attack or heal.
Lotex 4 May, 2017 @ 9:40am 
I finally won and this is the pattern we used during the battle (Normal difficulty).
http://imgur.com/N5qgFxK

I'm not sure if it always goes like this, so maybe someone can confirm if it played out the same way for him/her.
Two side-notes her: Around his 15th - 17th turn I was distracted and didn't see his attack, so it's possible that there was one turn where he used something else instead of attack, but if it's a set pattern it doesn't matter too much. I always took my turn as the first (since I got the first strike) of the round and if he got a double attack I marked my turn with "-" as skipped.
Last edited by Lotex; 4 May, 2017 @ 10:39am
Talithmara 4 May, 2017 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by Antoids:
One thing to note is that he uses blade dance (the one that deals about 5k damage) every 5th action. So, he'll go S-Break, Attack, Attack, Attack, Blade Dance, Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack, Blade Dance, etc. If you use Mirage on those turns I think it's better than eating the damage.

And this is exactly the kind of thing I hoped to see in this thread, heh! I was so caught up in deciding what the most efficient course of action was that I didn't notice his pattern. That's an amazing tip, and thank you for sharing it.
HunterRassius 4 May, 2017 @ 9:43am 
Sounds an awful lot like the Mueller we know and love. Good to know he kind of keeps the same pattern he did in SC. Can't wait to hit him on Nightmare now. I was wondering if things would ever get hard... /sadistic grin
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