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what would you say is the best way to level a healer?
There doesn't seem to be a weapon that gives you primarily RES which healing spells seem to scale off of, and healers don't kill enemies as efficiently as other classes would. I do believe that healers get support EXP, but I don't know if that gives enough when teaching them spells and using a staff might be more efficient in the long-run.
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micro-impact 5 Mar, 2021 @ 6:22am 
Yes, lern spells through pupils. And heal all the time even if it makes no sense.
dynastystar 5 Mar, 2021 @ 6:31am 
Originally posted by micro-impact:
Yes, lern spells through pupils. And heal all the time even if it makes no sense.
Okay, another thing that confuses me is Miabell. Her abilities seem to scale off ATK, but she is best at Staffs which will give INT(rank A), second-best is guns and bows which give still don't give much ATK, so the best weapon mastery rank weapon I can give her seems to be rank C if I equip an Axe or a spear if I want something that gives ATK, so I'm not sure how to handle her as a character.
micro-impact 5 Mar, 2021 @ 6:56am 
She has ATK 80% apt. so avoid anything related to ATK.
She has RES 130 , SPD and DEF 110 . So anything that needs RES or Speed is ok. Staff with some RES spells for example. Her Weappon Skills are so bad, that I wouldn´t bother with axes etc.
Overall I would say it is just a matter of time when you get sick of her. But I´m not a pro. So maybe someone has good suggestions what to do with her.
SleepingSeaweed 5 Mar, 2021 @ 8:10am 
For a healer character, you'll want to use a staff, for several reasons. Staff mastery increases the power of healing spells, as well as the range and targeting options of heal and other support spells. Staff is also the only weapon that builds mastery from using support spells.

That aside, the main way to increase heal power is to equip orbs. Some body armor increases RES too.

Early in the game you can easily keep a healer leveled just from bonus gauge exp, just make sure to combo attacks and that the targeted enemy dies from the combo and that will build bonus gauge pretty quickly. Their level will be a bit below the rest, but a full support character isn't really dependent on stats other than for survivability.

There are some stages with reverse damage geo panels if you want to make kills off of pure heal power, they're a stage in chapter 11 and dark world stage 1-4. However, you can also easily make them a conventional magic caster; they naturally gain staff mastery and all staves increase INT. Magic is stupidly OP in this game if you just give the character enough elemental specialists to get the elemental stat they're using up to 99, enemy resist generally never goes over 50, so even if they "resist" the element you're attacking with you get a positive damage modifier.

Originally posted by dynastystar:
Okay, another thing that confuses me is Miabell. Her abilities seem to scale off ATK, but she is best at Staffs which will give INT(rank A), second-best is guns and bows which give still don't give much ATK, so the best weapon mastery rank weapon I can give her seems to be rank C if I equip an Axe or a spear if I want something that gives ATK, so I'm not sure how to handle her as a character.
Miabel is probably the most confusing character, but I think the best way to use her is just as a support/spellcaster. The main reason to have her is the ability to passively increase everyone's stats by a small amount. If you don't have weapon scrolls, giving her a staff is a no-brainer since it's the only weapon she has decent mastery with.

By the way, character specials that are powered by "ATK" means they're powered by weapon attack, i.e. if you gave her a gun the HIT stat would determine damage, with a bow it's ATK+HIT/2 etc. If you wanted to make her a fighter with weapon scrolls you could give her an axe or something since she has nice targetable AoE to hit more than a single enemy, but there's honestly no reason, I think it's fine to just ignore her specials and use her as a caster.
neemoos 5 Mar, 2021 @ 8:19am 
EXP from support/healing spells is neat (very) early on, but soon falls flat in terms of efficiency compared to just killing enemies, so yeah, giving a staff+spells is probably the way to go. Also, since generic spells are affected by elemental resistances, learn the ones that matches your character (and pay attention while reincarnating) or learn/use star spells (they don't get the penalties from resistances, but there are no bonuses either, so keep in mind that it won't do as much damage comparatively. They are also a bit more expensive to use it, but that's only a problem early on).

I've never really used Miabell, but the way I'd do it is like any other spellcaster and ignore her innate skills, as the others sugested. If you reaaaly want to, you can equip an appropriate weapon scroll to fix her affinities (I usually go for bow or fist scrolls since those give 2 good aptitudes instead of just 1), though it may take a while for you to find/buy one, depending on your luck and/or how much money you have atm. Regardless on how you're using Miabell, she still looks good for her passive alone, if that helps.
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dynastystar 5 Mar, 2021 @ 11:09am 
I've never heard of or encountered weapon scrolls, how do I get them?
neemoos 5 Mar, 2021 @ 11:42am 
You can buy weapon scrolls from a somewhat rare NPC in Mystery Gates in the Item World, though since they are rank 40 items, they can be rather expensive if you find him early. Another way to acquire them (which I had forgotten about in my earlier post) is by accepting a "mastering (weapon)" felony and getting it as a reward after being judged. I don't remember exactly the threshold for when the felony becomes available, but I think it was roughly at Weapon Mastery lv 20-ish. You can grind for WM on stage 11-3 (Death to Cowards, in Shinra Tower) by making your units beat each other up on reverse panels (easier for characters with a good counter stat or equipped with a weapon with some counter bills passed), though it might take a while without Armsmasters.
Last edited by neemoos; 5 Mar, 2021 @ 11:49am
dynastystar 5 Mar, 2021 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by neemoos:
You can buy weapon scrolls from a somewhat rare NPC in Mystery Gates in the Item World, though since they are rank 40 items, they can be rather expensive if you find him early. Another way to acquire them (which I had forgotten about in my earlier post) is by accepting a "mastering (weapon)" felony and getting it as a reward after being judged. I don't remember exactly the threshold for when the felony becomes available, but I think it was roughly at Weapon Mastery lv 20-ish. You can grind for WM on stage 11-3 (Death to Cowards, in Shinra Tower) by making your units beat each other up on reverse panels (easier for characters with a good counter stat or equipped with a weapon with some counter bills passed), though it might take a while without Armsmasters.
I believe I currently have something like 5.5 billion HL
Kraleck 5 Mar, 2021 @ 3:32pm 
The best way I've found to level a Healer is to start them out as a Girl Mage or Skull, then gradually reincarnate into a Healer so they have decent offensive spells.

I start with a Star Mage to get all of their spells up to at least Level 2 (even the debuff spells for extra Staff mastery on the cheap), then reincarnate them into a Skull, doing the same with their respective elemental spells and debuff spells. After that, reincarnate into a Healer that has the previous Skull's element at 50% and work on keeping all of your spells up to date.

Personally, I would reincarnate further into a Magic Knight with the same element, keeping elemental spells, Star spells, Heal spells, Healer buff spells, and Mage and Skull debuff spells all up to speed as well.
Last edited by Kraleck; 5 Mar, 2021 @ 3:39pm
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