Disgaea 2 PC

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373 1 Jul, 2022 @ 9:05am
Bribery tips
Having a difficult time passing bills. Is there a strategy or something to boost my chances?
Originally posted by neemoos:
One of the first things I do in a fresh playthrough is to buy a lot of cheap items (sweets/drinks/hands from the consumable store) and do some mass bribing (use a cheap bill like "Raise Military Funds" or maybe one of the bills using Adell as a Senator (though if you're using that, Mana is probably not an issue for you). Focus your bribing on units/groups that don't have a gimmick to them, from highest to lowest in terms of influence (Wood Golems, Mothmen and Petit Orcs respectively). Don't even waste time trying to pass those "practice" bills, just press the menu button and leave (some of the affection you've gathered carry over to future bills). After you make Adell a senator, pass the bills to raise the influence of the groups you bribed. After an hour or so of bribing you'll rarely have trouble with passing bills again.

Technically you can just ignore this and try the brute force method (IIRC you can throw/combine the senators that oppose you unto the ones in your favor, as long as the later is higher leveled than the former), but that's pretty slow, especially in the long run.
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neemoos 1 Jul, 2022 @ 1:11pm 
One of the first things I do in a fresh playthrough is to buy a lot of cheap items (sweets/drinks/hands from the consumable store) and do some mass bribing (use a cheap bill like "Raise Military Funds" or maybe one of the bills using Adell as a Senator (though if you're using that, Mana is probably not an issue for you). Focus your bribing on units/groups that don't have a gimmick to them, from highest to lowest in terms of influence (Wood Golems, Mothmen and Petit Orcs respectively). Don't even waste time trying to pass those "practice" bills, just press the menu button and leave (some of the affection you've gathered carry over to future bills). After you make Adell a senator, pass the bills to raise the influence of the groups you bribed. After an hour or so of bribing you'll rarely have trouble with passing bills again.

Technically you can just ignore this and try the brute force method (IIRC you can throw/combine the senators that oppose you unto the ones in your favor, as long as the later is higher leveled than the former), but that's pretty slow, especially in the long run.
neemoos 3 Jul, 2022 @ 6:20am 
While I don't think it's really necessary, I figured I might as well mention it, but in the long run, you might want to bribe the Baciel demons as well (and later on pass the bill to double their influence too), since their vote is on par with the Wood Golems.

I've heard some people saying that the "drunk" status make their votes random, but I'm fairly sure that's incorrect (from my experience, their vote tendency doesn't seem to be any different from the others) - instead, IIRC it makes them react randomly to your bribes, so they can sometimes dislike a "must have" or like a "does not want".

In order to clear the "drunk" status, you need to use a "Smelling Salts" item (aka "Medicine" in the original version). You can buy those, along with Angel Cakes and Gold Bars (which are always "interested" and "must have" bribes, respectively), from the zombie merchant in the Mystery gates from the Item World. It might take a while to hoard them (and like I said it's not of too much importance), but just something to keep in mind as you play and if you have some spare HL. When you've gathered enough of those, I'd recommend about 2~3 Smelling Salts, with the rest being random cheap items + any Angel Cakes/Gold Bars you have when passing a bill.

Also, I forgot to mention last time (though you probably already know this one by now), but you can reset the approval rate of a bill by returning one screen and reentering the menu to slightly improve the odds in your favor.
Jegedillo 6 May, 2023 @ 6:39pm 
The more money you give them the better
Nox667 22 May, 2023 @ 10:51pm 
the value of items used for bribing is irrelevant, what matters is whether the senator likes an item or not, which afaik is decided by the rarity value of the item, which in turn is random. exception are gold bars and angel cakes which will always have a "love" and "like" rating respectively for all senators, tho drunk ones will still react randomly to them just like any other item
chaoticbalrog 10 Nov, 2023 @ 7:37pm 
One thing to keep in mind is that the White Dragon senators will never accept bribes. In fact, trying to bribe them will actually lower their affection for you.
Bobucles 11 Nov, 2023 @ 4:50pm 
Senators have a long term friendship value. Set up cheap bills, bribe them with tons of garbage, and you'll have a lot more friends in the future.

The alternate solution is to be overwhelmingly powerful and pass bills by force.
LordJavathe3rd 11 Nov, 2023 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Bobucles:
Senators have a long term friendship value. Set up cheap bills, bribe them with tons of garbage, and you'll have a lot more friends in the future.

The alternate solution is to be overwhelmingly powerful and pass bills by force.
This is what I ended up doing. On a Twilight Zone type side note, the manual suggests that people use the option to give up, rather than risk dying, even though you will lose the mana you spent suggesting the bill. I'm sure the manual writer knows that we just reload the safty game save we made before going into the dark assembly. But did you know the game keeps track of this "user behavior"? I know it does because the secret unlock achieved at 40 hours of gameplay was given to me on a save file that was not yet 40hrs. This means that reloading saves is potentially punished, most likely punished, and we are expected to take the hit of losing the mana we spend at the dark assembly. We are not suppose to be reloading like there was no punishment for doing so, the manual and game take for granted that we do not reload saves.... I'm not trying to rant, but I think we've been playing the game wrong from the very beginning, some 20 years later, we have no record of someone who didn't "cheat the system". Speaking of which, what does everyone here know about prinny reincarnation? Nothing right? I never did it. The game completely expects you to use prinny reincarnation. Has anyone played this game right? ANYONE?! I don't think we did.
Quick, someone put out a man hunt for someone who tried to play the game right, and what secrets if any were unlocked?
chaoticbalrog 11 Nov, 2023 @ 8:34pm 
There unfortunately are some bills where the Senators of the Dark Assembly simply will not like passing at all, such as "Raise Military Funds" or some of the tougher bonus boss fights.

Prinny Reincarnation is only used to wipe Felonies off of your generic units. Special units such as Adell and Rozalin wipe their Felonies away with the "Reincarnate and Atone for Sins" bill (this only affects the Felony stamp on your character portrait which maxes out at 99, not the gross Felonies which max out at 300 and replaces the Statistician innocent for this game since these 'gross Felonies' boost EXP gain by +1% for each gross felony).
Last edited by chaoticbalrog; 11 Nov, 2023 @ 8:34pm
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