yeah, this game feels like its more of an update to the original that should have been released as a patch.

Sell the new playable races as DLC. Thats fine. But when most of the game (and engine) are the same, then it certainly feels underhanded.

I certainly do not feel valued as a fan and paying customer of the series.

The only thing that would have made me concider it being worth an additional cost would have been if they added multiplayer to the game.

How would either of you know as you don't own SK:R. Buy it and play it or go complain someplace else.

What amazes me is the inability of people to understand that a company and its people have to make a living to. Do you think programming is done inbetween jobs, trust me its alot of work. And if you think that the people at stardock are getting filthy reach off this, i can asure you they are not.

"make a living, too."
"in between"
"it's a lot"
"rich"
"assure"

The grammar Nazi in me couldn't resist. Sorry.

Originally posted by vivas:

What amazes me is the inability of people to understand that a company and its people have to make a living to. Do you think programming is done inbetween jobs, trust me its alot of work. And if you think that the people at stardock are getting filthy reach off this, i can asure you they are not.

The markets are overfilled with games of less or none quality, therefore, publishers of good games have to raise their price. This stimulates cracking-industry and so the price grows even more and some games end up overpriced.

It worths to publish 10 games for 5 euros than one good game for 50 euros. So many people work as programmers and we consumers can't afford to pay them all. That's origin of the problem.

Originally posted by <u>Karel hunts bounty!:

Originally posted by vivas:

What amazes me is the inability of people to understand that a company and its people have to make a living to. Do you think programming is done inbetween jobs, trust me its alot of work. And if you think that the people at stardock are getting filthy reach off this, i can asure you they are not.

we consumers can't afford to pay

I went ahead and condensed the actual problem for you.

If you don't want to take advantage of the current loyalty discount then just wait 6-9 months for the inevitable 66% off or more discount.

$15 for a 4X strategy game is good deal IMO - a game genre where potentially dozens or even hundreds of hours of play are almost a given. A linear cinematic shooter which is over after 6-12 hours this ain't.

Originally posted by EvaUnit02:

If you don't want to take advantage of the current loyalty discount then just wait 6-9 months for the inevitable 66% off or more discount.

$15 for a 4X strategy game is good deal IMO - a game genre where potentially dozens or even hundreds of hours of play are almost a given. A linear cinematic shooter which is over after 6-12 hours this ain't.

I agree, $15 is a good deal for a 4x games, but this game isn't really $15. It's actually $29.99 for people that don't have the original and $15 for people that do. As of right now, their current description of this new version doesn't really show it's worth $15. On top of that, people that bought the original would be paying a total of $35.00 if they wanted to buy this version as well. So new people get this for cheaper than the people that supported them from the beginning.

It's a new game. Period. You don't HAVE to buy it!
New content, new artwork, new music, new videos, new mechanism so actually I think it's a totally new build. Real people worked on it to create it.
I agree that I like a DLC better than a standalone DLC, but I was not the one making it.
Stardock did.

People keep complaining about everything.

If it was released at a higher price, if it was released at a lower price, even if it was free people complain.

I'm really getting sick of that attitude on Steam's forums all the time.
Nothing personal to you OP, but really I have to Steam off a bit.
What do you want? Microtransactions? Full price standalone DLC's for owners of the original game? A subscription service?

Thank you Stardock for giving owners of the original game 50% discount for your new title!

Per Yarlen - Sorcrer King was $39.99 USD at release.

In that case, you guys screwed all the original owners worse than I thought.

So original owners get to spend a grand total of $54.98 if they want the full experience lol, while new owner get to spend a whopping $29.99?

Games come down in price as they get older. SK is $19.99 new now. It was $39.99 when it first came out.

Rivals is $29.99 new. It's $14.99 for people who have SK.

If it's not worth that to you, then don't buy it.

They have a right to complain. The devs have a right to ban them.

Other than being a little over dramatic I think the jist of the argument is a decent one. The dialogue at which point a person purchases something is something for the devs to hear.

This should have been a DLC...easier pill to swallow.

Originally posted by RexJayden:

This should have been a DLC...easier pill to swallow. :rebellion:

If it was a DLC there was no way to play the original game anymore. now people can actually choose which game to play since everything from SK is in Rivals as well.
Price point is not decided because it's a standalone but because the content cost money.
What exactly is the reason that a DLC is a better deal?

You can play an original game without DLC additions by not buying the DLC.
Adding to a game that was already made, to me, is far better than scrubbing your initial creation only to add a bit more to it.
This is not a "new" game...its a game with improvements and additions...something typically dubbed as DLC and therefore, not as expensive as re-purchasing a game. That is all.