Every day if you even screw up once your gone i hardly even bother with multiplayer anymore i just play single player now. Probably one of the worst community's for multiplayer out of any game. Personally i think the kick buttom should be removed from the game.

Ye only for grief era u can use kick button, somehow other countries kick each other for no reason

Originally posted by Birdkoo:

I mean do you still get banned from multiplayer games all the time if you're not an expert.

What has that got to do with "toxic"? That's just common sense.

Then don't suck. Plenty of youtube videos on how to play. Don't run off when your teammates need you. Listen to veterans.

I wish people would give up on these kinda threads already. There are like 100 of these threads already about the players. If you people that are new listen to the players that have high hours then u wouldn't have a problem.

Originally posted by LemonSqueezy:

Then don't suck. Plenty of youtube videos on how to play. Don't run off when your teammates need you. Listen to veterans.

Why would anyone need to watch youtube for a game like this for when its a plain and simple game to learn. You go around shoot and kill zombies. Yeah you need to know where your going but I mean come on. Just saying.

Originally posted by ✩ LILMAMA ✩:

Originally posted by LemonSqueezy:

Then don't suck. Plenty of youtube videos on how to play. Don't run off when your teammates need you. Listen to veterans.

Why would anyone need to watch youtube for a game like this for when its a plain and simple game to learn. You go around shoot and kill zombies. Yeah you need to know where your going but I mean come on. Just saying.

Because if the game was just about killin zombies it would be a simple game right? There is alot of tricks and strats to become a better player in general. Example backkicking as a hunter prevents players from hearing you growl before a pounce or leveling chargers.

Originally posted by LemonSqueezy:

Originally posted by ✩ LILMAMA ✩:

Why would anyone need to watch youtube for a game like this for when its a plain and simple game to learn. You go around shoot and kill zombies. Yeah you need to know where your going but I mean come on. Just saying.

Because if the game was just about killin zombies it would be a simple game right? There is alot of tricks and strats to become a better player in general. Example backkicking as a hunter prevents players from hearing you growl before a pounce or leveling chargers.

That is true.I still think it isnt that hard to learn the gameplay and stuff though.

ya sound like an elitist packet of ppl.

Originally posted by Birdkoo:

ya sound like an elitist packet of ppl.

Not really. Just play with friends and you'll be fine.

It is toxic. These 'veterans' are just people who have played the game for a while and compensate for something in their lives by bossing people around and giving them 'tips'? Ugh do these people not realise how loathsome that is. Nobody is SO bad that they need your help to play a videogame.
If these people were so good at the game they could coast through even with a terrible player. But they're not. I've played a game with another casual friend and we made it through unscathed on expert with another 2 'inexperienced players'. It's just easy to use a scapegoat when you lose a round by saying 'ermagerd nub y u no git gud' and kick them. It's like their life depends on winning and they don't understand how to enjoy and have fun. If the tryhard people want to play with people that don't occasionally make mistakes (and live in their delusional universe where nothing is their fault) they could play privately. But again. It's much easier to blame someone else when you lose on a video game.
Between teamkilling, spammers and 'veterans' it's tempting to put down your copy and play something else but it's actually really fun to play with people who enjoy themselves without raging. Try the campaigns online maybe on lower difficulties at first and add some like-minded people to your friends list.
But I would also like to know if the L4D communtity was always this bad? I can't imagine it being this vile when the game first came out. Seriously some of these people give COD players a run for their money xD

Originally posted by Teddy:

It is toxic. These 'veterans' are just people who have played the game for a while and compensate for something in their lives by bossing people around and giving them 'tips'? Ugh do these people not realise how loathsome that is. Nobody is SO bad that they need your help to play a videogame.
If these people were so good at the game they could coast through even with a terrible player. But they're not. I've played a game with another casual friend and we made it through unscathed on expert with another 2 'inexperienced players'. It's just easy to use a scapegoat when you lose a round by saying 'ermagerd nub y u no git gud' and kick them. It's like their life depends on winning and they don't understand how to enjoy and have fun. If the tryhard people want to play with people that don't occasionally make mistakes (and live in their delusional universe where nothing is their fault) they could play privately. But again. It's much easier to blame someone else when you lose on a video game.
Between teamkilling, spammers and 'veterans' it's tempting to put down your copy and play something else but it's actually really fun to play with people who enjoy themselves without raging. Try the campaigns online maybe on lower difficulties at first and add some like-minded people to your friends list.
But I would also like to know if the L4D communtity was always this bad? I can't imagine it being this vile when the game first came out. Seriously some of these people give COD players a run for their money xD

It's been like that since l4d1. Where have you been?

toxic my rear end, big part of crying on the forum and in game comes from a newbies with low number of hours in game time and who has maybe high hours in some source kids game and jumps into a 4 player coop game on expert level and get kicked a lot, from there he jumps into expert vs and still with just a few hours in game time and get kick there too, so the next stop for him is crying on the forum

I say it is somewhat toxic but it depends on the players. Anyone who is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ imo I never accept requests, send requests or play the whole game with them. There are some who are really nice and as for me the games I have played almost ALL if not most games and not a single salty person at all. I rarely get them and when I do I ususally just leave game but if they are the kindof people who join talk ♥♥♥♥ or try to kill your team I always kick then block communications with them so they are not able to join my games again. Aside from that I will have to agree with some people when there are newbies with low hrs and they play on advanced or expert.. like why the ♥♥♥♥ are you going to join a game you JUST got and play at that lvl? there is easy & normal for a reason. Again, this is all just my opinion. No hate.

Video games are an elitists only way to feel like they've accomplished something. They probably have a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dead-end job with no drive in life (if they even have a job, filthy dependants). Except being good at a video game. Don't hate on them too much, it just makes them even more toxic. You people that play games for fun... that's what gaming is about. Keep having fun, don't let the elitists get you down. Let them drive themselves crazy if they lose ONE match. You better believe they're buying new hardware to replace the ones they break if they lose, god forbid, TWO matches in one day. I actually feel sorry for them, they're sociopaths.