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I think her role on the story is the one of a free agent manipulated by forces that have interests in the conflict, in that sense I think the narrator is some sort of agent of Hatur whose role is to encourage ICEY to kill judas and trigger the rise of the black star. after all the narrator discourages any and every action taken that doesn't lead you to judas, the whole marionette theatre being one of those areas.
Other point of interest is that the whole story has three levels: the basic level which contains the Judas portion of the story, the narrator level, and the observers level. and it seems to me that, in order to completely understand the story of the game one must consider those three levels.
I think that because the switch bettwen Trinity and Dahal points towards the idea that the world where the Judas story takes place is a digital one, which is coherent with the narrator level and with the observers level. therefore I think that the story of game must be interpreted using those 3 levels at one and avoiding as much as possible the idea that the metanarrative aspects of the game are "just a joke" or don't have anything to do with the story.
Assuming what the OP said is right, i want to continue this in a logical way, including what Roboent said before: One should focus on the entire plot, not just the tiny piece of obvious lore one gets, the meta-narrative being no exclusion.
So, my theory is: What if we, the players, are Hastur? With Hastur's goal being to create an ICEY with an self?
See, it was already pointed out Jack resembles a prototype ICEY, and he wanted himself to be the Choosen One. Yet ICEY became the vessel for Hastur (e. g. the player), not Jack, thus the reskinned pre-ICEY turned agressive in order to become the Choosen One, and the rest is knows.
Yet, my interpetation of the events after Jack are different: You noticed that visual effect of an Eye watching ICEY and that other guy? And in generall, all other screens with Eyes on them watching ICEY? The always appear in places significantly shaping ICEY's later self. What if these monitors are Hastur? We, the player, watching her every step she takes?
Not even the narrator (himself a character of the game, as hementoned himself) has full control over what's happening. Only one person with the true power of a god is able to rule everything. Only the player.
Furthermore, the Master is having 9 billion names, right? Althought this point is more far-off than the rest: Soon, there will be 9 billion humans on this world, each of them a possible player. And hey, of our currently 7 bil., how many migth have multiple names?
This turned into another wall of text, and i know my thoughts are not in order, and probably extremly confusing, but i think carefully reading this will make clear into which direction i've been thinking.
Cheers, and sorry for the necro.
I love your theory that we the player are Hastur, that does cleanly connect a lot of what I thought were missing pieces. Assuming everything else I said is correct to a degree, I think you may have it all figured out. Cheers to you man. I may make this into a video at some point (with due credit of course) assuming the interest is there. For now I'm accepting your theory as plausably correct. Thank you so much for contributing, and im glad you love the game as much as I do.
A software firm named fantablade made a World for AI. (indicated by the about I and the readme file, and some scientists from the AI world found this out, and went mad. They declared the people of the real world "HASTUR", and were worried about their very existence. Judas proposed to make something to connect them with the outiside world, a game of sorts, this game being ICEY. The Chosen one is the player charecter, and asending to the heavanly throne might mean something about becoming popular in our world or whatever. building off of what a lot of you said, I think that the observer that is mentioned several times is Leeroy Rogers. (The narrorator's real name) It would probably make sense that he is the observer because of his constant insistance for the player to stay on the predefined path. (more on that later) The scientists probably modified their world to become the world of the game. I'm guessing that he was the scientist put in charge of making the game, but as he had no experience in making the game, the team were disgrunteled by his orders, as seen in the marionette theatre. It is also mentioned that if the observer gains a "self" then their memories must be wiped. Think back-how many of the runs ended after the narrorator started acting differently than he was supposed to? And after each run, does he remember anything? This is why he is so angry in the true ending. he realises that his memories have been wiped again, and again, trapping him in a limbo. Anyway, I digress on the narrorator for now. Remeber that "Path" from earlier? well, if ICEY is the chosen one and must not stray from that path, then it is probbably the path that was mentioned along with the observer. Due to all the religious dialouge, one might think that the "path" is some religious training, but it is the literal path to Judas the narrorator expects us to follow.
What do you guys think? I think this fits well with your theories.
Also, there are some flaws with your theory:
Also, last but not least, hearing you call many things here "religious stories", i assume you are not familiar with the backstory. "Carcosa" and "Hastur" are characters/places created by Robert W. Chambers and later addapted by Derleth and H.P.Lovecraft in their respective works. You may want to do soem research on these topics, not just to understand the game better.
Digged that up in these forums.Dunno if it is chinese translated to english, or the actual english ver, but i guess that doesn't matters.
Another Cthulhu Mythos reference, as far as i can tell. I must dig out that special line about the dark star(s), too sad i mostly own tranlsations of HPLs works, not the original english versions.
To be honest, that whole UCEY/ICEY thing is scaring me, since it is one of the aspects of the game i didn't fully understood. Help me recapping this:
So, that laboratory (is it conencted to the other parts we find scattered, especially in the metro and the clock tower) created a thign names UCEY. Later, they also created ICEY. Is UCEY ICEY's protype? Or are they the same rig, with ICEY being the "choosen" version? For me, it seems like someone at that laboratory has a Zescian idea of "it sounds that moronic it migth work". You got a prophecy or whatever telling of a "Choosen One"? Just start pumping out Gynoids matching her description, hoping that one will eventually be said Choosen One. Ties well into the aforementioned fact that Jack seems to be a prototype ICEY.
Also... what if Carcosa is the Black Star? As far as we can tell, that place, comparable to "the paradise" is an existing place, and Judas tries to reach it, using the what he read in the Necronomicon. And in his last moments, he understand. What if this process of understanding is causally linked to the black star rising?
And why, for Hastur's sake, are we supposed to jump inot waste three times?
Back to the main topic... They can very well be Acronyms, but keep in mind how they can be intepreted aswell: "i see" and "you see".
Also, if you migth have realized: when the narrator shows ICEY the truth about herself, the name above the healthbar changes to "UCEY". (Just as it later changes to your steam name). This implies ICEY is an UCEY frame of sorts. However, i do not understand how UCEY could then have been killed by ICEY.
As i said, that part is making me insane. The OP made a theory on this, but it is sporting gaping holes. ICEY is not a vessel, it reather seems like she (the I™ System) is rather being educated in a meta-context to the already existing metastory of the game. I doubt she is a vessel for Hastur, since she directly interacts with him (and has to learn his name, aswell).
However, the meaning of this can range from none, as in "Oh, she died... let's build a new body" to "Yeah, we just created a bunch of those hoping to accidentially make one the Chosen one", which would support my theory that all those are just other rigs that eventually died.
Also, when, whoever is doing this, has no issue memory-wiping the Narrator, why should they have an issue eleminating an UCEY if they get devious?
This makes me think about a thing... what if the goal is to not have a sapient ICEY? All those before were reaching that level of selfawareness at which "they" didn't wanted them to see, and disposed them? Only "our" ICEY could, being the Chosen One, make it this far? Without the intervention of the Player/Hastur/Whatever, she would have ended up like all those other rigs... makes me remember what was said about Ideon... And isn't his self-awareness the main motive behind Judas to do all this? Seems like a good reason to deny any other characters to reach sapience.
This is a very interesting topic... I'm going to sleep now, but i'll gladly contine discussing tomorow. I hope you can wait.
Oh, by the way: Close Your Eyes added, as far as i can tell, Girl's Graveyard as a free DLC to it. Which is more crucial to the entire series' lore than the base game, i'd say. Just to mention one example.