Insurgency: Sandstorm

Insurgency: Sandstorm

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mp5 so fun gun dev real clown make 0 pen no damage and huge horizontal recoil.
The funniest thing is that the developer then added the p90, which is literally completely unplayable because the developers made the damage lower and recoil even higher and the penetration 0 since the bullets just fall.
They simply have broken mechanics and game balance.
These idiots made the P-90 like the Asval, but with enormous recoil and no damage or penetration. It's more accurate, but it penetrates bullets that aren't AP like the MP7, and they just fall to the ground. The MP5 has more recoil than a machine gun, and any wall completely blocks damage and even reduces it by 10 times after penetration.
The best places for trash weapons are the corners of boxes, walls, fences, and metal pipes.
In fact, you can find walls that the MP5 penetrates, although it blocks damage completely even with 7.62/51/54 weapons. In a real game, the MP5's penetration against enemies is 0.
mp7 and as val and autoshotgun alot of better
It's so funny that C4 or IED simply don't blow up the cache in skirmish when they explode right next to it.
Well, in general, any close-range shootouts in this game look like a circus, since enemies can run silently in front of you at 10-15 meters or closer, depending on the walls and the map.
Also, the demo in this game is crap because it doesn't record what happened in the game. I once got killed through smoke on a hillside, but the recording showed smoke on the corner of a building's roof. I'm 100% sure the same thing is happening with the sound. In game, you sometimes die from invisible, silent grenades, and there was no sound of the grenade landing in the game. Even though the sound itself is quite loud. But usually in a clown game, there is no sound of the pin being pulled or the grenade landing, even though it should be there. The difference between what the server sees and hears and what was in the game is obvious.
I played quite a bit with the MP7 and Asval specifically to understand whether they can be used as good weapons where your potential K/D will compare to how you played with a normal weapon like the AK74. Even the MP7 with a silencer and a 1x scope and the Asval with a 2x scope can be played well. The Alpha AK is certainly better in every way and also has a silencer, but let's leave that aside.
While the MP7 also has a clown-like horizontal recoil, which means you'll often miss moving targets and die when playing with a 2x scope, but unlike garbage like the MP5, your bullets have higher speed and penetration comparable to normal weapons, despite the low damage. Basically, weapons are divided into only two types: those that can penetrate walls properly, which actually makes a difference in gameplay, from random hits along the edge of walls when an enemy is shooting from behind or running away, and garbage, where, regardless of stats and penetration checks, the actual gameplay effectiveness is zero.
Meanwhile, these idiots clearly wanted to make the P90 like the MP7 for the rebels, but in the absence of brains, they forgot to add AP ammo. The P90 is like the MP7 but with less damage and massive recoil, and it doesn't penetrate anything at all because after penetration, the damage drops to 0 and the bullets actually fall to the ground in the game, which is easy to visually verify. The MP5 is simply a garbage weapon, even if you kill enemies, despite the 40mm magazine and careful play, the ammo runs out very quickly. The weapon itself is garbage with no advantages. With a silencer, you can only play normally with a 1-1.5x scope because the recoil at a 2x scope gives no advantages. The funniest thing is that using it in singlefiremode when camping, even at short distances like 20-25m, is even more effective if you have time to aim... If you have to use singlerfire mode on a garbage SMG, that already says a lot.
At the same time, the Honey Badger is even worse than the As-Val due to its even slower bullet speed and ballistics, despite supposedly high damage along with high recoil and a high rate of fire. It's just garbage where you can't kill an enemy 50 meters in front of you. Moreover, the damage of this garbage, unlike the As-Val, drops (the As-Val has maximum penetration, which in this game affects the damage drop at a distance and after penetrating walls, and the bullet speed affects hitscanragne and the speed and penetration itself, and the caliber affects the damage, which will be reduced by the penetration stat).
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What works consistently in this game is that the explosions are always buggy garbage. However, I had this happen 3 times that c4 didn't blow up the cache. As is the sound, as is the penetration, as are the lagging servers.
Last edited by デニス・カディロフ; 31 Jan @ 11:45pm
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Sambuc 31 Jan @ 2:00pm 
Mp5 has a rights to exist in game. The same sleaze applies here as the M16 used by the insurgents. If and an AK starts shooting behind sec. team, they will pay attention. If an M16A2 starts shooting, the sec`s dotn care about sounds. It`s the same with the MP5 on both sides. The gunshots sound incredibly similar, and enemies rarely turn to face the MP5 fire until the bullets whistle over their heads.

If you look at it "dryly", it`s a semi-garbage weapon. If you look at it with a more "subtle approach", like the M16a2, MP5 not so bad. You can deceive the ears of your enemies.
Why are you still doing this? Just move on, the devs don't care.
Originally posted by Radical Randy:
Why are you still doing this? Just move on, the devs don't care.
Well, I email them, and the community mods respond. But since updates come out every six months, I can't know what they'll decide to add or fix from the pile of messages I send. At the very least, I don't know how to CONVINCE them through a message where it's even difficult to properly send a video.
Because to do that, you need to play the game to understand what I'm talking about. And they definitely don't play it.
Since the auto shot guns appeared ( with their wheat camo , hint hint ) ...... inmo ....... the SMGs are now garbage ( Breacher Class has become a joke ) . VAL or Mp5 A2 just about playable ............
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