This is one of my biggest complaints about the direction of the current game. To me, Hunter's Arrow was a vital part of the game. I'd also like to see Mastermind's Little Bird ability removed.

No, the unseen need a buff, if you remove bird something must be added.

He is basically just a knight now =/ And you don't get the protection of the arrow.
"oh he's a hunter claim? exe" Just like knight XD

MM's little bird I get Bottom line everyone was sick of wisper king meta..., in the end WKM is gone...

Hunter... I don't know I'm half and half on, I did like arrow... but I do agree it would be too much on a non unique class.

Personally I never considered arrow a real "slow down the executions" thing... old hunter was a pretty bad pretty scarce fake claim, due to bleed being mostly provable, the class being unique etc... More or less claiming hunter was like saying I want to be wolfed... so it was really only a solid idea to fake claim as a possesor, Possesor you can claim it, then jump and leave a hunter corpse and hope to get some people killed when suspicion turns on the real hunter. If it ain't a possesor game... 2 hunter claims was an auto win for BD.. Have one of them be the first vote on the other... if it's real hunter, at least you killed the fake one, if it's fake... even better.


So yeah long story short... fear of arrow maybe slowed down 1 of 50 executions? That being said a game with 3 legitimate hunters would create quite a mess execution wise... a misex is on it's own a huge punishment. Lose a BD, lose the chance to make a correct execute that day while the baddies are still out converting and killing at will. I don't really think on a raw strategy value that hunters really tip the scales that much.

Yeah agree. People heavily tend to execute left and right, whenever possible. And then probably blame the dead (wrongfully accused) guy's logs to cover their mistake. Now the only class they had to think twice about executing is gone. Very unhealthy change.

Yes but wolfing someone doesn't prove anything anymore, cult, and unseen can both bleed people
So now you have 2 hunters with people threatening to prove they are hunter, and then you just have more people bleeding to death.

Originally posted by Himye:

Yeah agree. People heavily tend to execute left and right, whenever possible. And then probably blame the dead (wrongfully accused) guy's logs to cover their mistake. Now the only class they had to think twice about executing is gone. Very unhealthy change.

This 1000%

On that note, I liked it when executing fool made it so you couldn't use your abilities that night. But maybe that was just too hard to win as fool XD

Unless you're just debating among players, posting here won't get the balance dev to see it -- best to toss your feedback to an official #feedback hub @ https://discord.gg/tol ~

Originally posted by Imperium42:

Unless you're just debating among players, posting here won't get the balance dev to see it -- best to toss your feedback to an official #feedback hub @ https://discord.gg/tol ~

Thanks for responding, í42! I submitted my feedback to Discord and the online form already and I saw a lot of other players' feedback there as well. I appreciate you commenting here and letting us know you've received the feedback. I believe most of us here, myself included, came to this thread to discuss the changes to Hunter and why we thought this was a bad change. It makes me happy that your dev team is so active! Good work!