FINAL FANTASY XII THE ZODIAC AGE

FINAL FANTASY XII THE ZODIAC AGE

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Singh 10 Feb, 2024 @ 1:12pm
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Not a Worthwhile Sale Price
As much as my nostalgia is driving me to collect old FF titles to have in my Steam library (which have almost entirely sat dormant and unplayed) - $20 is still too high an asking price for such an old title, especially considering the generally poor quality of most of Square's ports to PC. FF 15 (a much newer game) is actually cheaper - how does that make sense?

This should be priced at $10 or less on sale - the same as many of the other FF titles.

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EDIT: smh... I'm sure this may just turn into a posting board for all the Square apologists to give some version of 'it's so worth it,' 'don't buy it,' etc.

1) I'm not buying it. Check the lack of icon next to my screen name. Given Square's continued financial failures among its new titles maybe more sales of classic titles = good. Crazy thought I know.

2) The thread is for people at Square to see there are people that value FF titles but not at the price point they'd like (especially considering the likely quality of the port) so if they're interested in moving product at this point in the game's Steam life cycle maybe they should consider adjusting price.

People who have already bought the game (and apparently have not soured on the idea of defending a corporation like Square) are obviously not the target market for an unsold title like FF12.
Last edited by Singh; 10 Feb, 2024 @ 1:54pm
Originally posted by Pixxl:
Just gonna leave this here for the weebs:

FF1 Pixel Remaster | Steam Release date: 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price $9.59
FF2 Pixel Remaster | Steam Release date: 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price $9.59
FF3 Pixel Remaster | Steam Release date: 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price $14.39
FF4 Pixel Remaster | Steam Release date: 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price $14.39
FF5 Pixel Remaster | Steam Release date: 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price $14.39
FF6 Pixel Remaster | Steam Release date: 2022 | Lowest Recorded Price: $14.39
Final Fantasy 7 | Steam Release date 2013 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.79
Final Fantasy 8 | Steam Release date 2013 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.79
FF 8 Remastered | Steam Release date 2019 | Lowest Recorded Price: $7.99
Final Fantasy 9 | Steam Release date 2016 | Lowest Recorded Price: $8.39
FFX-X2 Remaster | Steam Release date 2016 | Lowest Recorded Price: $11.99
FF12 Remaster | Steam Release date 2018 | Lowest Recorded Price: $19.99
Final Fantasy 13 -1 | Steam Release date 2014 | Lowest Recorded Price: $6.39
Final Fantasy 13-2 | Steam Release date 2014 | Lowest Recorded Price: $7.99
Final Fantasy 13-3 | Steam Release date 2015 | Lowest Recorded Price: $7.99
Final Fantasy 15 | Steam Release date 2018 | Lowest Recorded Price: $13.99

Meanwhile:

Fallout 4 / GOTY | Steam Release date 2015 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.99 / $9.99
Fallout NV / GOTY | Steam Release date 2010 | Lowest Recorded Price: $2.49 / $4.99
Fallout 3 / GOTY | Steam Release date 2009 | Lowest Recorded Price: $2.49 / $4.99
TES Skyrim Special Ed. | Steam Release date 2016 | Lowest Recorded Price: $7.99
TES Oblivion GOTY | Steam Release date 2009 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.99

Mass Effect 1 (2007) | Steam Release date 2008 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.39
Mass Effect 2 (2010) | Steam Release date 2010 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.39
Mass Effect 3 (2012) | Steam Release date 2020 | Lowest Recorded Price: $5.99
ME Legendary Ed. 1-3 | Steam Release date 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price: $5.99
Dragon Age Origins | Steam Release date 2010 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.49
Dragon Age 2 | Steam Release date 2020 | Lowest Recorded Price: $1.99
Dragon Age Inquisition | Steam Release date 2020 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.79

Resident Evil 4 Remake | Steam Release date 2023 | Lowest Recorded Price: $29.99
Resident Evil 3 Remake | Steam Release date 2020 | Lowest Recorded Price: $9.99
Resident Evil 2 Remake | Steam Release date 2019 | Lowest Recorded Price: $9.99

Divinity Original Sin EE | Steam Release date 2015 | Lowest Recorded Price: $7.99
Divinity Original Sin 2 DE | Steam Release date 2017 | Lowest Recorded Price: $13.49

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided | Steam Release date 2016 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.49
Deus Ex: Human Rev DC | Steam Release date 2013 | Lowest Recorded Price: $2.99
Deus Ex: GOTY | Steam Release date 2007 | Lowest Recorded Price: $0.97

Yakuza 0 | Steam Release date 2018 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.99
Yakuza Kiwami | Steam Release date 2019 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.99
Yakuza Kiwami 2 | Steam Release date 2019 | Lowest Recorded Price: $4.99
Yakuza 3 Remastered | Steam Release date 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price: $5.99
Yakuza 4 Remastered | Steam Release date 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price: $5.99
Yakuza 5 Remastered | Steam Release date 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price: $5.99
Yakuza 6 The Song of Life | Steam Release date 2021 | Lowest Recorded Price: $5.99
Yakuza: Like a Dragon | Steam Release date 2020 | Lowest Recorded Price: $11.99

FF12 is overpriced.

Obviously.
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Hinnyuu 10 Feb, 2024 @ 1:39pm 
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FF15 is generally considered a worse game. So it being cheaper makes sense.

Price is not just a function of age. It's more complicated than that. Way more.

If you think $20 is too much for this game, that's fine - don't buy it. Enough other people seem to be disagreeing, so that's the price point they arrive at.

This is the best FF PC port they've done, and the game has a lot of replay value on top of already being a solid 50+ hour game for most people. That's worth $20 to a lot of people. If you're not one of them, fair enough. Buy something else for that money. There's tons of really cheap, great games these days.
cameraREDeye 10 Feb, 2024 @ 1:43pm 
$20 is actually cheap for this game. I could honestly justify a price tag of $30-40 given how good this game is.
m_brent 10 Feb, 2024 @ 2:59pm 
Given the hours I've sunk into this AMAZING game I'd say $20 is the steal of a lifetime
Melodia 10 Feb, 2024 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Singh:
$20 is still too high an asking price for such an old title,

While true the framework of the game was done in 2006, the remaster is just more than a simple port, and the amount of changes to the game that are available outside of Japan for the first time is pretty high on top of the actual new stuff added (including a whole new soundtrack)

Originally posted by Singh:
especially considering the generally poor quality of most of Square's ports to PC.

What the hell does the quality of other ports (which aren't as bad as you seem to think as a whole) have to do with THIS one, which is a fantastic port?

Originally posted by Singh:
2) The thread is for people at Square to see there are people that value FF titles but not at the price point they'd like (especially considering the likely quality of the port) so if they're interested in moving product at this point in the game's Steam life cycle maybe they should consider adjusting price.

Pretty crazy you think anyone in SQEX Japan will actually read this.

Originally posted by Singh:

People who have already bought the game (and apparently have not soured on the idea of defending a corporation like Square)

I love how any time someone doesn't agree with a ravenous rage against some perceived injustice they're "defending a coorperation".


Originally posted by Singh:

are obviously not the target market for an unsold title like FF12.

'Unsold title'? What the hell does that mean? This game has sold over a million copies on Steam alone (to say nothing of the other platforms), I'd say that's pretty well 'sold'.
Pixxl 10 Feb, 2024 @ 11:28pm 
oh geez, here come the weebs to piss themselves

someone thinks a ps2 game with a 6yr old port is not worth the money. tragic.

I too am a heretic that would not spend money on this.
Casurin 11 Feb, 2024 @ 4:24am 
Sure, if you don't want to pay 20$ for the game that is your choice.
I would say that there are many other games that - like FF15 - that are not worth the money.
it's a gabe 11 Feb, 2024 @ 5:50am 
Oh wow, it's 60% off. I thought FF titles (or at least main line ones) capped at 50%.

tbf, this port is miles better than other FF ports, especially if you compare it to the XIII trilogy and XV.

ngl, it is odd that XV, which came out a month after TZA, is cheaper. I always found that to be stingy of SE, but there's nothing anyone can do about it. You either get it now or wait years for SE to discount it at 70-80%, which could takes ages considering the only discount it ever had was 50% until September 2023.

Alas. As I see it (and I believe SE might have the same mentality), it all comes down to how much YOU value the game. XII being my favourite, £14/$20 is a steal. I also played it for about 200h not counting all the time I spent with the IZJS version years prior to TZA even being rumoured.

On the note of value, I'm not paying £35 for the FFVII remake, no matter how new it is or how much it shines. At the same time, there are people out there willing to pay full price for a newly-released game that ends up being absolute crap, as was the case for The Callisto Protocol.

The argument of price always comes down to how much the consumer values a game, how much fun they have with it, and how fulfilled they feel once the credits roll, which is why people complain about Bomb Rush Cyberfunk's price while others don't care that it's rather pricey for an indie game, playtime be damned. Same thing in this discussion 🤷‍♂️ Square Enix couldn't care less that you're not willing to pay that much, which is why this year was the first time the discount turned out to be more than 50%.
「Lukja」 18 Feb, 2024 @ 3:08pm 
I have this game on PS2, three times, four if you count the demo disc.
PS4, and on PC. I love it so much.
solidap 19 Feb, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
This is an excellent port and it has literally 100+ hours of content. You seem rather...high maintenance lol
Arisu 21 Feb, 2024 @ 5:35pm 
I love this game, I was part of the midnight release on oct 31 2006 for PS2
I still have the purchase paper for that. (It wasn't fun waiting outside in 32f (0c) weather though lol.
When I saw at 60% off, it was a instant buy for me
now to get time off from work to enjoy this
WhateverWorks 25 Feb, 2024 @ 7:58am 
A strong argument can be made for this being the best one in the series, at least in many regards. But value when it comes to entertainment is subjective. I needed to have 7-12 in my Steam account, and so far I've played through 7, 9, and 12. None of the others. Those three are my favorites and I enjoy revisiting them from time to time, but others I just didn't get much out of originally. I'm not giving Square a penny for 1-6 until they remake 6, which deserves a remake more than anything in the series. Possibly more than any game in history.

Also, the idea that people at square are going to care about or worry about what forum users say is delusional. These forums don't account for remotely enough players for them to worry about what we think of their business practices. Their games sell in the millions and millions of copies worldwide, Steam users on the forums for their games make up what thousands? MAYBE tens of thousands?
Last edited by WhateverWorks; 25 Feb, 2024 @ 8:03am
canadianrpgmaniac 14 Mar, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
Game is 60% off right now. Anyone know if it could be cheaper in the summer sale or sept?
Hinnyuu 14 Mar, 2024 @ 8:10pm 
Originally posted by canadianrpgmaniac:
Game is 60% off right now. Anyone know if it could be cheaper in the summer sale or sept?
... how?
How could we POSSIBLY know?
Last edited by Hinnyuu; 14 Mar, 2024 @ 8:10pm
Melodia 14 Mar, 2024 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by Hinnyuu:
How could we POSSIBLY know?

The same way anyone knows if SaGa Enerald Beyond, which comes out in over a month, is censored.
WhateverWorks 14 Mar, 2024 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by Hinnyuu:
Originally posted by canadianrpgmaniac:
Game is 60% off right now. Anyone know if it could be cheaper in the summer sale or sept?
... how?
How could we POSSIBLY know?

By the existence of historical precedent for a lower sale price. Idk if said lower price has happened or not, but that would be how you would know.
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