Hakoniwa Explorer Plus

Hakoniwa Explorer Plus

H U G E 12 Jun, 2018 @ 11:25pm
Bampire and suckubus charm?
Any way to resist or break out of this thing. I seem to be getting caught in an infinite loop of being charmed whenever it happens and i'm not sure spamming directional buttons is working.
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Katmanjoe 13 Jun, 2018 @ 12:25am 
There is a ring you can get called the Antisuck ring. That ring will help you resist it.
RobDeLaMorte 13 Jun, 2018 @ 2:28pm 
The suckubus is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid. Don't go NEAR that hidden room in the caves until you find that ring and have a god bow or something. I just lost an hour's progress because I wandered in and didn't want to continue with -14 levels. ¬_¬
H U G E 13 Jun, 2018 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by RobDeLaMorte:
The suckubus is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid. Don't go NEAR that hidden room in the caves until you find that ring and have a god bow or something. I just lost an hour's progress because I wandered in and didn't want to continue with -14 levels. ¬_¬
It isn't bad at all even without the ring.
It is actually really easy.

Like most enemies in the game you can just charge attack it, wait for it to be vulnerable again then charge attack it again.

Had no idea it drained levels. Neat.

Originally posted by Katmanjoe:
There is a ring you can get called the Antisuck ring. That ring will help you resist it.
Btw, the ring doesn't affect charm at all. Just the drain. I was asking about how to avoid getting charm looped.
Last edited by H U G E; 13 Jun, 2018 @ 6:10pm
☆Sunshine☆ 13 Jun, 2018 @ 8:16pm 
Later there's a sword you can get by drop or by combining a thunder grimore and normal sword. The bullseye sword gives you a ton of AP regen
Last edited by ☆Sunshine☆; 13 Jun, 2018 @ 8:17pm
RobDeLaMorte 14 Jun, 2018 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by HUGE:
Originally posted by RobDeLaMorte:
The suckubus is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid. Don't go NEAR that hidden room in the caves until you find that ring and have a god bow or something. I just lost an hour's progress because I wandered in and didn't want to continue with -14 levels. ¬_¬
It isn't bad at all even without the ring.
It is actually really easy.

Like most enemies in the game you can just charge attack it, wait for it to be vulnerable again then charge attack it again.

Had no idea it drained levels. Neat.

No, I assure you it's utter trash game design. :x The charm spam is flat out impossible to evade in any way, and if she hits you with a single one you're done for and become unable to avoid her at all. Then she chain grabs you, each one level draining and doing very little damage to make sure you lose a dozen levels or so even without healing midfight, meaning you either have to eat a continue and carry on with all those levels (and 10% money) gone forever, or reload from whenever you last saved.

If you get caught with even a single charm, you're totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥. There's no other way to explain that other than horrible game design and wanting to make the player ragequit. There's nothing funny about forced progress loss just because you wandered into the wrong room with no warnings.
H U G E 14 Jun, 2018 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by RobDeLaMorte:
Originally posted by HUGE:
It isn't bad at all even without the ring.
It is actually really easy.

Like most enemies in the game you can just charge attack it, wait for it to be vulnerable again then charge attack it again.

Had no idea it drained levels. Neat.

No, I assure you it's utter trash game design. :x The charm spam is flat out impossible to evade in any way, and if she hits you with a single one you're done for and become unable to avoid her at all. Then she chain grabs you, each one level draining and doing very little damage to make sure you lose a dozen levels or so even without healing midfight, meaning you either have to eat a continue and carry on with all those levels (and 10% money) gone forever, or reload from whenever you last saved.

If you get caught with even a single charm, you're totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥. There's no other way to explain that other than horrible game design and wanting to make the player ragequit. There's nothing funny about forced progress loss just because you wandered into the wrong room with no warnings.

Not like levels and money mean much in this game anyway.
Mauno 14 Jun, 2018 @ 11:12am 
Also don't you get all the exp back if you defeat it? At least normal enemies level drains seem to work like that.
Last edited by Mauno; 14 Jun, 2018 @ 11:13am
H U G E 14 Jun, 2018 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Unentokku:
Also don't you get all the exp back if you defeat it? At least normal enemies level drains seem to work like that.
Pretty sure. It modifies the exp they would normally give you so it will be returned if you kill them.

I would imagine a couple people would be really mad if they usually use those OP weapons that disable exp drops, because those prevent drained exp from being returned too, lol.
RobDeLaMorte 14 Jun, 2018 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Unentokku:
Also don't you get all the exp back if you defeat it? At least normal enemies level drains seem to work like that.

I mean, the issue here was that her charm spam made me literally unable to take any action at all because of massive stamina drain. :x


I'm still salty about it, but I did manage to recover my progress for the most part so bleh. I just checked and that room really does have no warning before entering so that'd be what got me last time. xD

I actually found that if you bumrush her and just charge attack her stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥ face as fast as you can, she'll get stunlocked and unable to spam charm on you so she IS actually super easy. You just need to be really aggressive and charge attack her a bunch.
Kain Yusanagi 14 Jun, 2018 @ 8:49pm 
Hey, so, for the charm AP drain, the martial artist girls in the western map (you fight them a lot in the Tepid Springs random map) do something similar where their attacks stun you and drain your stamina. Easiest solution is the simplest one- bring food. Food regenerates AP as well as HP, and you can get some decent food in every town.
☆Sunshine☆ 14 Jun, 2018 @ 10:32pm 
Adding onto Kainyusanagi's post.

you can bring frozen food, they last longer and restore more AP. Cooked items do as well.
There's also a cleanfreak badge you can find from hidden blue chests in a certain dungeon that allows you to keep foods without expiring.
Mauno 15 Jun, 2018 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by ☆Sunshine☆:
There's also a cleanfreak badge you can find from hidden blue chests in a certain dungeon that allows you to keep foods without expiring.
Which dungeon? Somehow I seem to have missed that.
Originally posted by Katmanjoe:
There is a ring you can get called the Antisuck ring. That ring will help you resist it.
....you mean the ring you get from the item that drops FROM the suckubuss? yeah youre not really helping any by telling the guy absolutely nothing. not to mention you dont just -get- the ring, you get an item with no seeming use.
RobDeLaMorte 15 Jun, 2018 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by KINGS The King:
Originally posted by Katmanjoe:
There is a ring you can get called the Antisuck ring. That ring will help you resist it.
....you mean the ring you get from the item that drops FROM the suckubuss? yeah youre not really helping any by telling the guy absolutely nothing. not to mention you dont just -get- the ring, you get an item with no seeming use.

I found the ring as a random drop from some chest but the ring itself is still worthless because while it stops her draining levels and health off you, she can still stunlock you to death through charm spam which is sort of the problematic part of the fight. xD

I'm telling you guys, screw the ring, save before going in and just run up to her and wail on her with charge attacks until she dies Is the only way, yar.
oh you can actually find it? i just ran into the room and mashed the button non stop, no reason to do anything else. every enemy can be infinite stunlocked. though to be fair she DID manage to drain like 40 levels from me, not that levels seem to have any effect on anything anyways.
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