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freerangechikn 14 Oct, 2019 @ 7:30am
Legitimacy for Mide
The trickiness of Legitimacy has certainly been discussed before, but I'm wondering if anybody can tell me what triggers the negative decline?

I had a good amount of legitimacy, approaching enough to Annex a faction, and the natural decline is at 0, so it doesn't go down. Then I look up a few turns later, and there is a -1 natural decline. Is it linked to current wars? Governors employed? I'm trying to think of things that changed in my campaign in between having a 0 decline and a -1.

Thanks in advance for any tips.
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Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:
Originally posted by freerangechikn:
The trickiness of Legitimacy has certainly been discussed before, but I'm wondering if anybody can tell me what triggers the negative decline?

I had a good amount of legitimacy, approaching enough to Annex a faction, and the natural decline is at 0, so it doesn't go down. Then I look up a few turns later, and there is a -1 natural decline. Is it linked to current wars? Governors employed? I'm trying to think of things that changed in my campaign in between having a 0 decline and a -1.

Thanks in advance for any tips.
Yes, it is linked to current wars; but no, it is not related to any of your governors.

Each turn you are war, and not doing anything against enemies, you will suffer a "-1 natural decline" malus.

To prevent this, you must either 1) conclude peace with your enemies, or 2) take some action against enemies, such as raid an enemy region, capture an enemy settlement, or defeat one of their forces in battle.

Without taking actions against enemies or concluding peace, you get a turn phase with no malus, but the following turn phase you will then see the malus come into the modifier list.

If you aren't in a position to be capturing new territory, or it doesn't seem strategically wise for some time, and similarly, you don't want to raid because of diplomatic relations with neutral factions or such, then the best strategy can often be to conclude peace, and preserve your Legitimacy.
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Mile pro Libertate 14 Oct, 2019 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by freerangechikn:
The trickiness of Legitimacy has certainly been discussed before, but I'm wondering if anybody can tell me what triggers the negative decline?

I had a good amount of legitimacy, approaching enough to Annex a faction, and the natural decline is at 0, so it doesn't go down. Then I look up a few turns later, and there is a -1 natural decline. Is it linked to current wars? Governors employed? I'm trying to think of things that changed in my campaign in between having a 0 decline and a -1.

Thanks in advance for any tips.
Yes, it is linked to current wars; but no, it is not related to any of your governors.

Each turn you are war, and not doing anything against enemies, you will suffer a "-1 natural decline" malus.

To prevent this, you must either 1) conclude peace with your enemies, or 2) take some action against enemies, such as raid an enemy region, capture an enemy settlement, or defeat one of their forces in battle.

Without taking actions against enemies or concluding peace, you get a turn phase with no malus, but the following turn phase you will then see the malus come into the modifier list.

If you aren't in a position to be capturing new territory, or it doesn't seem strategically wise for some time, and similarly, you don't want to raid because of diplomatic relations with neutral factions or such, then the best strategy can often be to conclude peace, and preserve your Legitimacy.
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freerangechikn 14 Oct, 2019 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:
Originally posted by freerangechikn:
The trickiness of Legitimacy has certainly been discussed before, but I'm wondering if anybody can tell me what triggers the negative decline?

I had a good amount of legitimacy, approaching enough to Annex a faction, and the natural decline is at 0, so it doesn't go down. Then I look up a few turns later, and there is a -1 natural decline. Is it linked to current wars? Governors employed? I'm trying to think of things that changed in my campaign in between having a 0 decline and a -1.

Thanks in advance for any tips.
Yes, it is linked to current wars; but no, it is not related to any of your governors.

Each turn you are war, and not doing anything against enemies, you will suffer a "-1 natural decline" malus.

To prevent this, you must either 1) conclude peace with your enemies, or 2) take some action against enemies, such as raid an enemy region, capture an enemy settlement, or defeat one of their forces in battle.

Without taking actions against enemies or concluding peace, you get a turn phase with no malus, but the following turn phase you will then see the malus come into the modifier list.

If you aren't in a position to be capturing new territory, or it doesn't seem strategically wise for some time, and similarly, you don't want to raid because of diplomatic relations with neutral factions or such, then the best strategy can often be to conclude peace, and preserve your Legitimacy.

Great thank you for this! I can confirm that this exact scenario applies to my current campaign, as I'm at war with a Norse faction that I am no longer attacking.

Your response is much appreciated!
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Mile pro Libertate 14 Oct, 2019 @ 1:22pm 
Glad to help.
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