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Hurricane (Banned) 26 Jun @ 3:19am

So was mw5 the first decent game?

Looking at 4 I haven't even checked older ones but 4 looks like ps1 graphics! Absolute potato!

I mean I've always heard of mech warrior but didn't get it until I played battletech and then realised its kinda like warhammer it has mega lore and stuff! I don't think this is advertised enough... I didnt expect mw5 to be a fps battletech at all i expected it to be a linear map to map game.

The only funny thing about getting into the lore is all the dates are all over the place... I think the games are way behind the lore? I see the lore has atlas 3 now but this game doesn't even have atlas 2!

I mean I have armored core 6 but that is literally tekken with mechs the world is dead and pointless its just zerg to end of the map and kill boss... if they did ac like mw it would be insane!

I do love the turn based of bt though and such a shame we won't get a modern one with a decent engine.

But overall mw/bt has a mega following I wonder why there's not more games? Im so happy the new dlc was just announced and it seems a beefy one compared to previous dlc and more like an expansion pack!

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Bovril Brigadier 26 Jun @ 4:02am

Originally posted by Hurricane:
Looking at 4 I haven't even checked older ones but 4 looks like ps1 graphics! Absolute potato!

So you are complaining about a game that came out in the era of the PS1 looks like a PS1 game?
What did he mean by this?

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Hykril Tynyx has MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

(Banned) 26 Jun @ 4:16am

Either hilariously out of touch with reality or a poor clownfarming bait attempt.

BrianDavion has MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

26 Jun @ 4:17am

Mechwarrior 4 came out in 2000. so yeah of course the graphics seem dated

Mochan

26 Jun @ 4:32am

Originally posted by Hurricane:
Looking at 4 I haven't even checked older ones but 4 looks like ps1 graphics! Absolute potato!

I mean I've always heard of mech warrior but didn't get it until I played battletech and then realised its kinda like warhammer it has mega lore and stuff! I don't think this is advertised enough... I didnt expect mw5 to be a fps battletech at all i expected it to be a linear map to map game.

The only funny thing about getting into the lore is all the dates are all over the place... I think the games are way behind the lore? I see the lore has atlas 3 now but this game doesn't even have atlas 2!

I mean I have armored core 6 but that is literally tekken with mechs the world is dead and pointless its just zerg to end of the map and kill boss... if they did ac like mw it would be insane!

I do love the turn based of bt though and such a shame we won't get a modern one with a decent engine.

But overall mw/bt has a mega following I wonder why there's not more games? Im so happy the new dlc was just announced and it seems a beefy one compared to previous dlc and more like an expansion pack!

MW4 came out more than two decades ago. It came out during the PS2 era. The oldest one came out during the FamiCom/NES era.

Battletech is much older than Warhammer 40K.

The games are not way behind the lore. All the lore was already published like a couple of decades before MW5 even came out. However MW5 Mercs is set in 3040ish, it's not "behind the lore" it's just set in a specific timeframe in the history of the lore.

We have enough games you have HBS Battletech and PGI's MW5 games, and MWO is still a thing. That's actually a lot. The following is strong but mostly OGs like myself who've been in this hobby since the 80s. Kids these days normally don't care about mecha, so it's a niche genre for the main gaming market.

I mean, heck most kids don't even know what Macross or Robotech is, never heard of Super Robot Wars and the only thing they know about mecha is they heard their cool uncle talking about Gundam.

Bovril Brigadier 26 Jun @ 4:46am

Originally posted by Hykril Tynyx:
Either hilariously out of touch with reality or a poor clownfarming bait attempt.

Its definitely bait but will be watching this get a load of replies.

Hurricane (Banned) 26 Jun @ 5:00am

How's it bait? Im not 50 year old and new to mech warrior... what am I baiting you into?

I mean if 4 is 20 year old that is crazy so the others must be ancient!

Coming from battletech and not knowing battletech was mech warrior then finding the lore is a massive eye opener but I bet many people are in the same boat.

I didnt know it was older than warhammer either!

I have played final liberation which lets you use the warhammer mechs the titans but never seen older mech warrior games like that?

I dunno why this community is on edge seems if anyone new asks a few questions you all go crazy?

Im just expressing my interest in the mech warrior universe... maybe that's why it didn't go mainstream since the fans are toxic af?

Mochan

26 Jun @ 5:06am

Most kids today don't know, generally mecha genre is for 70s and 80s kid and older.

70s era was the Age of Super Robots (Getter Robo, Mazinger, and a ton of things you never heard of). 80s era was the Age of Real Robots (Gundam, Macross, and a ton of things you never heard of). 90s era was the Age of Emo Robots (Evangelion and clones).

After that the genre pretty much fell into ruin into the mid 00s, with occasional glimpses of awesome like Darling in the Franxx and a Gundam show every few years or so to sell more Gunpla. But in general kids from the 00s and onwards don't care about the mecha genre, so no surprise you don't even know about it.

Just ignore the old farts, a lot of us are grumpy old men with Gatekeeper tendencies.

Hykril Tynyx has MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

(Banned) 26 Jun @ 5:16am

Ok, but to be clear: you've mentioned MW4 but didn't Google for maybe just a second longer to see how old it was only to act surprised now? This has nothing to do with being old, fart, or whatever.

About the "lore": let's just say this - anything beyond the Clan Invasion is akin to beating a near-dead testosterone-filled horse suffering from a heavy fentanyl withdrawal. It gets extra stupid crazy real fast, though with huge time skips, ironically. So, the majority of popular stuff related to BT universe is associated with the Succession Wars or Clan Invasion.

Hurricane (Banned) 26 Jun @ 5:17am

Originally posted by Mochan:
Most kids today don't know, generally mecha genre is for 70s and 80s kid and older.

70s era was the Age of Super Robots (Getter Robo, Mazinger, and a ton of things you never heard of). 80s era was the Age of Real Robots (Gundam, Macross, and a ton of things you never heard of). 90s era was the Age of Emo Robots (Evangelion and clones).

After that the genre pretty much fell into ruin into the mid 00s, with occasional glimpses of awesome like Darling in the Franxx and a Gundam show every few years or so to sell more Gunpla. But in general kids from the 00s and onwards don't care about the mecha genre, so no surprise you don't even know about it.

Just ignore the old farts, a lot of us are grumpy old men with Gatekeeper tendencies.

Yeah i have zero clue what anyone of them are haha.

Closest thing to mechs before battletech for me was transformers!

Im watching a playthrough of mw4 now and I like the armor damage ui i think 5 is hard to work out how much armor you have left!

Just seems like I found a hidden gem with all this and people love armored core but never talk about mech warrior? MW is 1000% better i don't get it

Mochan

26 Jun @ 5:32am

Transformers is 80s era, it actually follows from the Super Robot era of the 70s and didn't shape up to be a real Robot show like Gundam or Macross.

However there actually are Transformers who came from Macross, like Jetfire. This is all going over your head though because I'm talking Gen 1 Transformers (which is Japanese-based) and you're almost certainly only familiar with Michael Bay Transformers.

Armored Core just has recency bias and is coming off From Software's newfound stardom after decades of Souls-like supremacy and the megahit that is Elden Ring. If it weren't for Elden Ring most players wouldn't even have given Armored Core 6 the time of day.

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Hurricane (Banned) 26 Jun @ 5:58am

Originally posted by Mochan:
Transformers is 80s era, it actually follows from the Super Robot era of the 70s and didn't shape up to be a real Robot show like Gundam or Macross.

However there actually are Transformers who came from Macross, like Jetfire. This is all going over your head though because I'm talking Gen 1 Transformers (which is Japanese-based) and you're almost certainly only familiar with Michael Bay Transformers.

Armored Core just has recency bias and is coming off From Software's newfound stardom after decades of Souls-like supremacy and the megahit that is Elden Ring. If it weren't for Elden Ring most players wouldn't even have given Armored Core 6 the time of day.

Yeah i didn't know that either!

I maybe have to look into some of the older stuff.

True I only bought armored core due to dark souls and elden ring and what a disappointment it was... it has everything to be cool but ends up boring as its just arena battles when you pull the curtains back.

I just love the full merc commander playstyle and so happy they are making a new dlc soon when im fresh to the game

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Rattler

26 Jun @ 7:43am

If you think MW4 looks crunchy with the graphics... you should see MW2! lol

Polygons. *Ancient Aliens Guy hands*

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RandomNoun has MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

26 Jun @ 9:02am

While MW2 was my entry point into the game franchise so it holds a special place in my heart MW3 is probably my favorite, it plays like a real combat theater behind enemy lines. The field salvage vehicles that followed you around so you could access a mechbay at any time was pretty neat. I think it still holds up today, I have an ISO for it that I boot up from time to time even now. dont let bad graphics get between you and a fun game

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Hurricane (Banned) 26 Jun @ 9:41am

Originally posted by RandomNoun:
While MW2 was my entry point into the game franchise so it holds a special place in my heart MW3 is probably my favorite, it plays like a real combat theater behind enemy lines. The field salvage vehicles that followed you around so you could access a mechbay at any time was pretty neat. I think it still holds up today, I have an ISO for it that I boot up from time to time even now. dont let bad graphics get between you and a fun game

Ill have to take a look like I've said i tried final liberation which is ancient! And it was kind fun! A turn based old school warhammer game

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Comkill117 has MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

26 Jun @ 10:08am

MechWarrior 2? Maybe 1 but I haven't played that. That said 2's amazing and totally worth playing, there's a reason it had like 30 different versions.

I know 2's an old game, but the mission design and music was top tier and the gameplay was (and still is) great. It's definitely slower than 5, but it's a lot more hands off which I appreciate. The challenge was pretty on point, outside a few defense missions and some late game stuff really ramping things up, but that's to be expected. It's also got great atmosphere. It also controlled really well.

You can get the DOS version running pretty easily on modern stuff. It's not much of a looker as it's a 3D DOS game from like 1995, but it has it where it counts.

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