"no graphical or texture" - not sure if you noticed, but VonBiomes is literally the most major graphical and texture mod out. Even good computers struggle to run it with everything turned on.

there's also a spawn stutter issue within YAML in the current live version. fixed for the next version release.

Also, Xenopax Optimize 4.0 is old and actually causes more problems than it fixes. And incompatible with vonbiomes too. Will mess with things in YAML if installed improperly too.

well thanks i want to say that there's no other graphical mod except von biomes. On the other end i can play without vonBiomes, amazing mod though. Anyway thanks for the quick answer.

If you can post specs and a complete modlist that may help, my 11th gen i5 w/ a 2080 super would stutter a lot with this game even on medium graphics settings when modded, but my 14th gen i7 w/ 4070 doesn't.

Also gotta keep in mind YAML will pretty heavily impact your performance and even moreso if you install the optional extras ones like yet another clan mech and yet another variant and so on. I know phfor says Xeno doesn't work so well, but I've never had issues with either Xenopax optimisers and it definitely seems to help reclaim FPS back, at least in my situation.

Then again, I only use like... 3-5 mods so I can definitely see Xeno being incompatible with other more complex modsets, pretty sure vonbiomes was one listed that doesn't fully work with it as an example.

Absolute worst case scenario, turn off all your mods, make a test campaign and re-enable them one by one to find the performance hog. Good luck bud

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
AMD Radeon RX 580 2048SP 8gb
16Gb Ram

as for mods
Mw5 Compatibility pack
Mod option
TTRulez_AImod2
ChangeCompanyName
Leopard Colors
Mech Delivery
Advanced Career start
MoreAdvancedStarts
PilotOverhaul
BetterSalvageShares
BarFly
SideHustle
Improved Airstrike
Marketplace QOL
ExpLogos_battletech
CommandQuirk
The Known universe
Yet Another Mechlab
Yet Another Weapon
Yet Another Equipment Collection
Yet Another Weapon Clan
Yet Another Clan Mech
Expanded MEck Quirks
Coyote Mission
Tex_Cantina

this is my actual settings since i already removed Von Biomes and XenoPax Optimize 4.0
but the stuttering is right there all the time.

Oof, that's a rather dated setup, to put it mildly.

Originally posted by Naylind:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
AMD Radeon RX 580 2048SP 8gb
16Gb Ram

as for mods
Mw5 Compatibility pack
Mod option
TTRulez_AImod2
ChangeCompanyName
Leopard Colors
Mech Delivery
Advanced Career start
MoreAdvancedStarts
PilotOverhaul
BetterSalvageShares
BarFly
SideHustle
Improved Airstrike
Marketplace QOL
ExpLogos_battletech
CommandQuirk
The Known universe
Yet Another Mechlab
Yet Another Weapon
Yet Another Equipment Collection
Yet Another Weapon Clan
Yet Another Clan Mech
Expanded MEck Quirks
Coyote Mission
Tex_Cantina

this is my actual settings since i already removed Von Biomes and XenoPax Optimize 4.0
but the stuttering is right there all the time.

Expanded MEck Quirks - unfortunately this mod breaks the YAML quirks on a number of mechs, due to the mod being half done and abandoned by the creator.

also the modlst.jsn needs to be deleted and the windows system settings in your user directory if you are changing mods significantly. they will both keep pieces of mods after you have removed them so it seems like it has not been fixed, even if it has. don't worry they will regen on their own

what i should delete in the windows system settings? Should be like C:\users\username\AppData\Local\MW5Mercs\Saved\ this folder?

So, right now i just remove all added mods like Yaml and coyote and restore my mod list to my last campaign and i played 8 missions and the game is smooth. At this point my finger point to Yaml

Originally posted by Hykril Tynyx:

Oof, that's a rather dated setup, to put it mildly.

do you mean my mods or my computer specs? If the second i can assure u i can play smoothly Baldurs gate 3/Cyberpunk 2077/ Space marine 2/ Diablo IV and MEchwarrior 5 is older than those games.

Originally posted by Naylind:

do you mean my mods or my computer specs? If the second i can assure u i can play smoothly Baldurs gate 3/Cyberpunk 2077/ Space marine 2/ Diablo IV and MEchwarrior 5 is older than those games.

Yes, I mean the specs and I don't believe your "can play smoothly" phrase (what does that even mean?), unless, of course, you're playing it all on the lowest settings with FSR or reduced resolution, especially regarding CP'77. Mechwarrior 5 may be older than those games (with CP'77 it's only a year difference, btw), but it's also notoriously poorly optimised, so introducing mods into the game may often have the effect of amplifying the potential performance issues.

no buddy by smoothly i mean smooth, just perfect and no, it autedect to max even Cyberpunk 2077. The only upgrade i have bought was the gaming SSD for the Expansion since without it the stream on HDD was too slow. Just that.

"Smooth" doesn't define anything in particular regarding performance, laddie. Have you ever heard of such things as "FPS", "latency", and "resolution", for example? As far as I know your particular setup is only capable of running CP'77 in 1080p on "max" with a quite inconstinet FPS in the range of 30-50 on average... and "max" isn't even a real word used in the game's settings, btw, because there are only these options for various parameters: "low - medium - high - ultra". You still haven't even mentioned whether you're using FSR, Path Tracing, Frame Generation or Ray Tracing at all. But, anyway, all of this is getting into the off-topic territory - I've already explained what kind of performance should be expected from MW5 with mods.

Originally posted by Naylind:

what i should delete in the windows system settings? Should be like C:\users\username\AppData\Local\MW5Mercs\Saved\ this folder?

Probably just the config folder however when I had trouble I deleted everything in the saved folder and it reset with no problems.

Originally posted by Naylind:

So, right now i just remove all added mods like Yaml and coyote and restore my mod list to my last campaign and i played 8 missions and the game is smooth. At this point my finger point to Yaml

Originally posted by Hykril Tynyx:

Oof, that's a rather dated setup, to put it mildly.

do you mean my mods or my computer specs? If the second i can assure u i can play smoothly Baldurs gate 3/Cyberpunk 2077/ Space marine 2/ Diablo IV and MEchwarrior 5 is older than those games.

Your finger is pointing the wrong direction. While there is currently an issue with the mod, it generally doesn't majorly effect performance. Far more likely to be some sort of mod conflict (as others told you). You have two mods on that list that I KNOW interact with the same things as YAML, which can cause issues, and if TTrulez isn't the expected version, that can also cause issues with YAML.



Furthermore, no, CP2077 does NOT default to ultra on a 580, especially after Phantom Liberty came out. Do not lie, it does not help anyone. You literally do not have the VRAM for it to do so, even at lower resolutions. A quick check of the internet shows sub-60 fps @1080p low for the 580.
As for the others, they aren't exactly examples of hard to run games.

I'm not mocking you for having an older system (Hell, I ran an FX-6300 + a GTX 950 with 16GB of DDR3 and HDDs until at least 2019), but your wordings here imply you are either pretty new to computers, or simply in denial. It doesn't help you get assistance to mislead, and those who would try to provide more detailed help can in fact wind up writing you off when you make such claims.

To clarify, BG3, Diablo 4, and even Soace Marine 2 are actually considered to be near the 'toaster compatible' grade of scalability. They aren't examples of games that are hard to run. The year a game came out means little for how it performs on hardware. The engine in use is FAR more of an indicator. The games you listed, for example, are all on customized proprietary engines and from devs who've worked with those engines for like a decade. Resulting in reasonable performance optimization and high scalability, vs the modern flood of UE5 (same problems also present in other modern commerically leased engines, too) trash that runs like dogwater because devs lean on upscalers to account for the fact that the defaults in UE5 are non-performant.

And in case anyone wants to try to give me any crap about the UE5 comments:
7800x3d, 64GB RAM, 7900XTX, games stored on NVME SSDs while OS on a SATA SSD.
My system is like one step down from top of the line for gaming.

Sounds like the mods are doing it. Uninstall mods.