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CHOCOLATExPANDA 1 Mar, 2024 @ 8:09pm
Ancient Warriors - Raider Progression STILL broken
Apparently this has been an issue since 2019 and still hasn't been addressed. The description of the game mode states that the "raider progress at their own pace" but this is only partially true.

If you progress to the next age - CONGRATS, so did the raiders!!! So if I do my due diligence and arm my people before focusing on economy tech (after all- the raiders will progress at their own pace, right? I better get armed, right?), then the raiders MAGICALLY jump up to my same level in tech.

This is so stupid. The second raid I experienced had FULL BRONZE SPEARS!!! My people JUST got bronze - we were fighting with FLINT still! The first raiders had BONE!

This makes the Ancient Warriors unplayable unless you "game" it in anticipation of this gameplay flaw.

I really love this game, and I'm very close to 100% the achievements. Can we get a balancing fix for this, Devs? :SupraSadFace:
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korac 2 Mar, 2024 @ 3:42am 
When is an intended and deliberate design feature a bug? Quite simply, it's not.

More to the point, Ancient Warriors on Hardcore can actually be beaten without building any real fortifications at all (I and others have done it as a personal challenge thing) so to say that this scenario is "unplayable" is simply not true. You just have to have learned all aspects of the game well enough to beat it, which is actually kinda the point of this particular final scenario. it's intended to be challenging, and be too hard to beat if you haven't learned enough from previous play-throughs.

In this scenario, raiders will either match your tech level or surpass it if you take too long to progress. The intention is that you cannot beat them in the tech race (which is how experienced players usually win) and this is precisely the end result. The aim is to figure out how to win without being able to count on having superior tech, or even the same tech at times...
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CHOCOLATExPANDA 3 Mar, 2024 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by korac:
When is an intended and deliberate design feature a bug? Quite simply, it's not.


Interesting perspective. I suppose I will try to handle the mode differently... I think there should at least be a warning that raiders also MATCH your tech, because losing a whole hardcore run off off that unknown feature really sucks.

Perhaps this time I will be patient to go to the next tier...
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korac 5 Mar, 2024 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by CHOCOLATExPANDA:

Perhaps this time I will be patient to go to the next tier...

More speed, less haste is a good way to do things. ;)

If you find you're still struggling and could do with some shared thoughts on the subject, there are several old threads available. I think the most recent one was this one -

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/858810/discussions/0/5371139515118401164/

Good luck!
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