Amnesia: Rebirth

Amnesia: Rebirth

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Neonwarrior 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:19am
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Imagine capping your game at 60 fps in 2020
Let us remind ourselves that Cyberpunk 2077 comes out in less than a month, and the Nvidia RTX 3000 series just released a couple of months ago making 8k gaming at 60 fps a reality. 360hz monitors are actually a thing right now you can buy, and PC tech has never been more powerful.

But Amnesia 2, game we've been waiting literally a decade for, is capped at 60 FPS. In 2020. The f*ck?

Yes I know you can use the config file to raise it. I've done that, but even then, the framerate is incredibly choppy to the point I consider it almost unplayable (at least visually discomforting) despite the counter telling me I am apparently getting 120+ frames. Nah, this feels more like the game can't handle anything above 60 FPS. Even the first Amnesia ran better at 144!

I know developing this game must have been hard due to an unfortunate case of "there's a pandemic," but sincerely to Frictional, what year do you think it is!? Not supporting 144 FPS when 2021 is just 2 months away; this is unacceptable!

For all of you people with 60hz monitors who can't perceive the issue, let me just tell you that 144hz monitors, even with G-SYNC, do not display 60 FPS with the same clarity that a 60hz monitor does. For all intents and purposes, I am getting less than 60 FPS, despite my FPS counter displaying much higher than that.

The choppiness is insane, almost as if the game simply does not know how to display any higher than 60 fps. This makes sense; 144 fps is not in the game's list of supported framerates for a reason, I suppose. Many older games have similar problems due to using older game engines, and this game uses the same antiquated engine since the first Penumbra game!

Frictional, I expected better of you. I think I will refund until the framerate issues are resolved, not to mention the many graphical glitches I've witnessed thus far.

PS I encourage everybody to turn shadows and sun shadows to 'low' and laugh at the absurdly low-res shadow that seems to have about 8 pixels.

EDIT: I refunded this game already shortly after I made this post, but to clarify further, the choppiness I was experiencing was not *just* due to being locked at 60fps, but rather an additional visual lag and stuttering on top of the lower framerate. It was uncomfortable to play and seemed to be some kind of issue with optimization that I expect is already patched out, over a month later.
Last edited by Neonwarrior; 30 Nov, 2020 @ 12:22pm
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Schlendi | #LV426 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:23am 
For me, the 60fps are fine. After setting the framerate to 144, the game feels choppy on my monitor.
dorkflame 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:25am 
Fun fact, the game runs in 60 fps even when uncapped. The new frames are just doubled from 60.
dorkflame 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:29am 
Originally posted by Neonwarrior:
Frictional, I expected better of you. I think I will refund until the framerate issues are resolved, not to mention the many graphical glitches I've witnessed thus far.

Bad news for you - they most likely won't. I tested the source code of the older engine version and certain game logic is tied to the framerate, so once unlocked, certain things just break.

I don't see them patching this because it's gonna mean rewriting a lot of the engine, which is only happening in the next engine version, i.e. next game.
Rooster Rawlington 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:33am 
360hz monitors?

It's been a while since I checked, but what kind of connection do you use for that? Wow.

I personally have no desire to switch from my Dell Ultrasharp, but that number was unexpected.
Neonwarrior 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Darkfire:
Originally posted by Neonwarrior:
Frictional, I expected better of you. I think I will refund until the framerate issues are resolved, not to mention the many graphical glitches I've witnessed thus far.

Bad news for you - they most likely won't. I tested the source code of the older engine version and certain game logic is tied to the framerate, so once unlocked, certain things just break.

I don't see them patching this because it's gonna mean rewriting a lot of the engine, which is only happening in the next engine version, i.e. next game.

I see. In that case I guess I should count my lucky stars that the game at least supports 1440p and has a decent selection of graphical options.

Originally posted by Rooster Rawlington:
360hz monitors?

It's been a while since I checked, but what kind of connection do you use for that? Wow.

I personally have no desire to switch from my Dell Ultrasharp, but that number was unexpected.

Still displayport, but I assume some kind of new version.
ChupLoops 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:53am 
Dude, this is not a fast-paced action game or a shooter. 60 fps is fine.
Dr.Cola 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Stripey:
>8K at 60 a reality

Not really, only in very specific cases. Also that's only with the $1500 card, ignoring the fact you'd also need a top of the line CPU to minimize bottleneck
CPU is less of an issue the higher the resolution is.
WESTG4M3R4L1F3 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:54am 
the next episode will be capped at 30 fps
Tracido 20 Oct, 2020 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Darkfire:
Originally posted by Neonwarrior:
Frictional, I expected better of you. I think I will refund until the framerate issues are resolved, not to mention the many graphical glitches I've witnessed thus far.

Bad news for you - they most likely won't. I tested the source code of the older engine version and certain game logic is tied to the framerate, so once unlocked, certain things just break.

I don't see them patching this because it's gonna mean rewriting a lot of the engine, which is only happening in the next engine version, i.e. next game.

I knew going to 4k 60FPS max was the best choice I made this year.. More frames is not quite mainstream, but more resolution, gold.
Mepho 20 Oct, 2020 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by Tracido:
I knew going to 4k 60FPS max was the best choice I made this year.. More frames is not quite mainstream, but more resolution, gold.
I lol'd.

The 3090 does 30fps in 8K btw.
4K has been the biggest scam for simpletons. I thought 8K was pushing it too far but hey, here you are.
Seegaren 20 Oct, 2020 @ 11:17am 
Í ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ agree, i think it will be 1h and 59min then refund lol.
Fluffy 20 Oct, 2020 @ 11:18am 
There's gotta be a way to uncap the game
Neonwarrior 20 Oct, 2020 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Stripey:
>8K at 60 a reality

Not really, only in very specific cases. Also that's only with the $1500 card, ignoring the fact you'd also need a top of the line CPU to minimize bottleneck

Yes, of course, but it is still achievable with current technology. I am only mentioning it as a sort of contrast to where we are now and where we were 10 years ago when the first Amnesia released, and the GTX 400/Radeon HD 5000 series was more top-of-the-line (if I remember correctly).

My point is simply that while framerates and resolutions have increased across the board, and the technical reality of PC hardware has evolved to be many times faster than a decade ago, Frictional Games have made nearly zero effort to even acknowledge the existence of 120+ hz gaming, much less support it. So their games get to stay in the past, unable to move forward along with technology, and those of us who actually have this technology get a worse experience than those who have 60 hz monitors that Frictional is attached to.

They need an engine rework but when will that be? When Amnesia 3 comes out in 2030?
Last edited by Neonwarrior; 20 Oct, 2020 @ 11:37am
Villain 20 Oct, 2020 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by ChupLoops:
Dude, this is not a fast-paced action game or a shooter. 60 fps is fine.
what a BS argument. why do you think mobile phones are pushing 120hz? you can see the difference even navigating the windows.
Llama glama 20 Oct, 2020 @ 11:49am 
They should advertise the feature on the store page if they are so proud of it.

- Authentic retro experience at 30 or 60 frames per second, with fps-lock technology option
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