Steam Summer Sale ends with a wet fart

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muckymucks 22 hours ago

It's like it never happened. It was that uneventful and somehow in the future it's going to be even WORSE.

Since most people here are Valve fanboys, I find it interesting when they actually get criticized, like modder Kaldaien, who just quit Steam and deleted their 20-year-old account. They just wrote a post[gist.github.com] about how Valve has been failing the PC gaming community, making Steam bloated with pointless features and bugs creators have to find workarounds for, and generally spreading their toxic DRM into games like a virus so they can't be separated. Basically, what's good for Valve is not good for game creators and modders. It's an interesting read from someone in the industry trying to work these greedy monsters.

If you're pressed for time, PC Gamer wrote a condensed version of Kaldaien's post.

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 22 hours ago

Originally posted by muckymucks:
Steam Summer Sale ends with a wet fart

It's like it never happened. It was that uneventful and somehow in the future it's going to be even WORSE.

Since most people here are Valve fanboys, I find it interesting when they actually get criticized, like modder Kaldaien, who just quit Steam and deleted their 20-year-old account. They just wrote a post[gist.github.com] about how Valve has been failing the PC gaming community, making Steam bloated with pointless features and bugs creators have to find workarounds for, and generally spreading their toxic DRM into games like a virus so they can't be separated. Basically, what's good for Valve is not good for game creators and modders. It's an interesting read from someone in the industry trying to work these greedy monsters.

If you're pressed for time, PC Gamer wrote a condensed version of Kaldaien's post.

His mod got banned years ago from the store, got banned on the main forums years ago and he rage deleted his account.

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( ( < < <2🤖1> > > ) ) 22 hours ago

i think steam are demonstrating they are not the monopoly people think they are...

was there a sale on....

datCookie 22 hours ago

At this point, OP, I can't imagine Valve would do anything right in your mind. It wouldn't matter how "eventful" a sale is, you'd still find something to complain about. Personally, I've never cared for the eventfulness of a sale, because I just focus on what games I can get on the cheap. Plenty of people found the Summer sale to be worthwhile, many didn't and such is always the way of things.

I can't speak to what this Special K guy says, because I don't know them, their history or the story itself. I'll let others judge that.

cSg|mc-Hotsauce 21 hours ago

Just looked into it, his alt account is still there.

DarkCrystalMethod 21 hours ago

Sounds like this Special K is some kind of hack, and now that its officially unsupported companies should write detection code for it and issue bans, because thats always fun.

cSg|mc-Hotsauce 21 hours ago

Originally posted by DarkCrystalMethod:
Sounds like this Special K is some kind of hack, and now that its officially unsupported companies should write detection code for it and issue bans, because thats always fun.

You can see for yourself... https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/SpecialK_Mods/

Shreddy 21 hours ago

Originally posted by ( ( < < <2🤖1> > > ) ):
i think steam are demonstrating they are not the monopoly people think they are...

was there a sale on....

Valve have been to court and lost over monopolistic behaviour several times now so it’s not really a debate. When they have ability to put price parity clauses into their contracts it allows them to literally set prices on other site removing their ability to compete with steam in any meaningful way. A business without any meaningful competition is in a monopolistic position and furthermore have very little incentive to offer a good customer experience as far as pricing or support.

Ben Lubar 21 hours ago

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by muckymucks:
Steam Summer Sale ends with a wet fart

It's like it never happened. It was that uneventful and somehow in the future it's going to be even WORSE.

Since most people here are Valve fanboys, I find it interesting when they actually get criticized, like modder Kaldaien, who just quit Steam and deleted their 20-year-old account. They just wrote a post[gist.github.com] about how Valve has been failing the PC gaming community, making Steam bloated with pointless features and bugs creators have to find workarounds for, and generally spreading their toxic DRM into games like a virus so they can't be separated. Basically, what's good for Valve is not good for game creators and modders. It's an interesting read from someone in the industry trying to work these greedy monsters.

If you're pressed for time, PC Gamer wrote a condensed version of Kaldaien's post.

His mod got banned years ago from the store, got banned on the main forums years ago and he rage deleted his account.

:nkCool:

And the summary given in the OP is incorrect. The article linked says that Steam's DRM is the feature of Steam the author thinks should continue to exist, and all other features (like Steam Workshop, Steam Matchmaking, Steam Input, etc.) should be removed because a store should never provide any features other than DRM to games on its platform.

Truth 21 hours ago

Originally posted by Shreddy:
Originally posted by ( ( < < <2🤖1> > > ) ):
i think steam are demonstrating they are not the monopoly people think they are...

was there a sale on....
Valve have been to court and lost over monopolistic behaviour several times now so it’s not really a debate. When they have ability to put price parity clauses into their contracts it allows them to literally set prices on other site removing their ability to compete with steam in any meaningful way. A business without any meaningful competition is in a monopolistic position and furthermore have very little incentive to offer a good customer experience as far as pricing or support.

They have actually not lost in court over that, it hasn't even gone to trial yet, and the person making the claim had to remove most of their complaints to even get the case heard.

Steam has plenty of competition, Epic, GoG, Microsoft, etc. Its just they suck compared to what steam has to offer.

datCookie 21 hours ago

Originally posted by Truth:
Originally posted by Shreddy:
Valve have been to court and lost over monopolistic behaviour several times now so it’s not really a debate. When they have ability to put price parity clauses into their contracts it allows them to literally set prices on other site removing their ability to compete with steam in any meaningful way. A business without any meaningful competition is in a monopolistic position and furthermore have very little incentive to offer a good customer experience as far as pricing or support.

They have actually not lost in court over that, it hasn't even gone to trial yet, and the person making the claim had to remove most of their complaints to even get the case heard.

Steam has plenty of competition, Epic, GoG, Microsoft, etc. Its just they suck compared to what steam has to offer.

Not to mention that you can find plenty of games at cheaper prices on other platforms that are also found on Steam.

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( ( < < <2🤖1> > > ) ) 21 hours ago

i think its far worse when companies sell their games to these up to a year exclusivity deals....

seems more anti consumer than anything else i've seen or heard about...

and its the devs.. the take the deals... anti consumer for cash

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yankees992007 20 hours ago

Everyone knows that Summer sales is the 2nd best after Winter sales. Summer sales isn't like black friday/cyber monday sales but close, All my games that I picked up was 50% and higher discounts.

Winter sales is known to have 70 to 90 percent of discounts on most game products.

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 20 hours ago

Originally posted by yankees992007:
Everyone knows that Summer sales is the 2nd best after Winter sales. Summer sales isn't like black friday/cyber monday sales but close, All my games that I picked up was 50% and higher discounts.

Winter sales is known to have 70 to 90 percent of discounts on most game products.

And now, Valve moved the Autumn sale forward a couple moths this year.

2025 Steam Autumn Sale: September 29 – October 6 (Please note this is a different time frame compared to previous Autumn Sales)

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yankees992007 20 hours ago

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by yankees992007:
Everyone knows that Summer sales is the 2nd best after Winter sales. Summer sales isn't like black friday/cyber monday sales but close, All my games that I picked up was 50% and higher discounts.

Winter sales is known to have 70 to 90 percent of discounts on most game products.

And now, Valve moved the Autumn sale forward a couple moths this year.

2025 Steam Autumn Sale: September 29 – October 6 (Please note this is a different time frame compared to previous Autumn Sales)

:nkCool:

Perfect, Thank you. Now I can save for DLCs for the games I bought earlier.

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Ben Lubar 20 hours ago

Originally posted by ( ( < < <2🤖1> > > ) ):
i think its far worse when companies sell their games to these up to a year exclusivity deals....

seems more anti consumer than anything else i've seen or heard about...

and its the devs.. the take the deals... anti consumer for cash

Look at it another way: the game "releases" a year later, but has a year of fully funded additional development time. Sounds like a win for everyone...

Except the store that's paying them for exclusivity, ironically.

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