Have you had any gifts declined? I think refunds can give you negative balance for earning trading cards.

No. I've received every card to which I'm entitled. Just to get the obvious question out of the way. You've spent the requisite ten dollars per purchase, because you will only get a card for every ten dollars spent on purchases.

Originally posted by K-Driver:

Have you had any gifts declined? I think refunds can give you negative balance for earning trading cards.

Why do they secretly punish people for refunding? There should be a warning system in place to say they are taking away things, like the pending market listing thing...they know they will lose money if they install a warning system so they haven't done it. Morally bankrupt they are, they also secretly raise the time on card drops after you refund too...for months my drops aren't instant they take 3 hours each game...takes forever and would've never refunded anything if I knew this would happen before.

Originally posted by jerk store:

Originally posted by K-Driver:

Have you had any gifts declined? I think refunds can give you negative balance for earning trading cards.

Why do they secretly punish people for refunding? There should be a warning system in place to say they are taking away things, like the pending market listing thing...they know they will lose money if they install a warning system so they haven't done it. Morally bankrupt they are

It's not a punishment. You get trading cards for the initial purchase and instead of taking them back you just get negative balance to prevent you from repeatedly refunding to farm cards.

Originally posted by jerk store:

would've never refunded anything if I knew this would happen before.

That's a lie for added dramatic effect.

Spend $10, get 1 card.

Refund the game but you still keep that first card.

Spend $10, get nothing because you already earned that card from the refunded purchase.

Spend $10 again, get your next card drop.

Originally posted by K-Driver:

Originally posted by jerk store:

Why do they secretly punish people for refunding? There should be a warning system in place to say they are taking away things, like the pending market listing thing...they know they will lose money if they install a warning system so they haven't done it. Morally bankrupt they are

It's not a punishment. You get trading cards for the initial purchase and instead of taking them back you just get negative balance to prevent you from repeatedly refunding to farm cards.

It feels that way because it's secretly done, there is no warning system warning you it will happen.

Originally posted by jerk store:

Originally posted by K-Driver:

It's not a punishment. You get trading cards for the initial purchase and instead of taking them back you just get negative balance to prevent you from repeatedly refunding to farm cards.

It feels that way because it's secretly done, there is no warning system warning you it will happen.

Because resetting the drops should be obvious when you refund games that you already got the drops for.

Just made a purchase where I should gotten 30 cards, but only got 24. Two items were gifts , as yet unredeemed, so that would explain why I'm missing 6. My assumption is that I'll get those remaining 6 when the gifts are redeemed.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Just made a purchase where I should gotten 30 cards, but only got 24. Two items were gifts , as yet unredeemed, so that would explain why I'm missing 6. My assumption is that I'll get those remaining 6 when the gifts are redeemed.

Those should be those specific holdouts, yes.

Originally posted by jerk store:

Originally posted by K-Driver:

It's not a punishment. You get trading cards for the initial purchase and instead of taking them back you just get negative balance to prevent you from repeatedly refunding to farm cards.

It feels that way because it's secretly done, there is no warning system warning you it will happen.

Your clueless naivete doesn't not equate to conspiracy or malice on Valve's part. Having negative feelings about being treated fairly isn't a problem Valve needs to solve for you.

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by jerk store:

It feels that way because it's secretly done, there is no warning system warning you it will happen.

Your clueless naivete doesn't not equate to conspiracy or malice on Valve's part. Having negative feelings about being treated fairly isn't a problem Valve needs to solve for you.

Where's the proof i'm not right, cuz some random person they pay to defend them says it's not the reason???? Hahahahaha yeah sure that'll hold up

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by jerk store:

It feels that way because it's secretly done, there is no warning system warning you it will happen.

Because resetting the drops should be obvious when you refund games that you already got the drops for.

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No it shouldn't, other places warn you when you are doing any transaction why not here, it's a store is it not?

Originally posted by jerk store:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Because resetting the drops should be obvious when you refund games that you already got the drops for.

No it shouldn't, other places warn you when you are doing any transaction why not here, it's a store is it not?

It's worked this way since cards first started dropping during events for purchases.

Originally posted by jerk store:

Originally posted by K-Driver:

Have you had any gifts declined? I think refunds can give you negative balance for earning trading cards.

Why do they secretly punish people for refunding? There should be a warning system in place to say they are taking away things, like the pending market listing thing...they know they will lose money if they install a warning system so they haven't done it. Morally bankrupt they are, they also secretly raise the time on card drops after you refund too...for months my drops aren't instant they take 3 hours each game...takes forever and would've never refunded anything if I knew this would happen before.

Yeah, you trying to game the system to get free stuff is not the flex you think it is.